@mmpandit Pranam sir. It's been a while I am reaching out to seek your guidance but unsuccessful. Unemployed, both parents suffering from chronic health issues. Whenever I try to do something about career a health issue in family popping up. Misunderstandings btw father and siblings peaked
@Balwantrao0104@halleyji A PM position of today's can be a king(kshatriya dwija) equivalent (if not exact parallel due to present times). So was he born with the said ritual state? Or being born in kings( families are there but not kingdom) family is the only way to get ritual state?
@Balwantrao0104@halleyji The point here is despite taking dwija birth in a family which follows it with dedication can produce such a staunch opposers. What is the effectiveness of ritual state or previous punya karma(of his previous life or the family he was born)which granted a dwija birth?
@Balwantrao0104@halleyji Criminals are in every community does that make the entire community ineligible? Infact brahmins(with respect to brahmins whose tapas is unmatchable. Pranam to their feet๐) who turned atheist or leftist damaged hinduism more than a normal 4th varna.
@ShivamV53592946@Balwantrao0104@halleyji Thanks for the appreciation brother. My Dharma taught me to surrender(by keeping faith) to god or guru. Or else question(a way to remove agnana from oneself) with dignity untill you find answer/path/guru that dispels the darkness without blindly following things. Neti, neti ๐
@Balwantrao0104@halleyji And born shudra can become PM, CM,Dr, Businessman but not a vedic student? I understand there are temples with family/ some other parampara. No one is fighting to break it and enter garbha Griha. But can't they even recite a shloka even? Are 4th varna such paapa janma's? Sorry.
@Balwantrao0104@halleyji Ok. Assume that one born as dwija has metaphysical advantage at birth. Then what makes them fall from it even after taking birth in dwija family. The punya karma that gave birth couldn't sustain him to follow shastra?
@saurabhsaffron@nkgrock@JSR1989 Sir as far as I know, many people keen in learning vedas to understand/experience more. Not fighting to enter garbha Griha. After a point many understand tradition/lineage. And there are lineages vanished because few stopped reading/following them.
@saurabhsaffron@nkgrock@JSR1989 Ok. But that can be done anyways by the folks within the fold. And that's how different acharyas and thought process were stemmed out. There is still no agreement on so many things within by the learned acharyas. Why adding few more with same strict rules you follow dilutes it?
@saurabhsaffron@nkgrock@JSR1989 Majority of Hindu's don't read any text. Many of them rely on local folklore of our purana/itihasa, festivals and rituals. That's how majority know about their gods. Not scriptures. Still survived. Why allowing reading scriptures in same strict rule a threat to civilization?
@halleyji@Balwantrao0104 Where as in adhikara of scriptures it is a life time exclusion of a particular group just like that. Even when one is ready to go through the same process and maintain same strict life. A default one-sided conclusion of one's capacity-bhakti. No sain can understand this logic.
@halleyji@Balwantrao0104 In sabarimala case, atleast at some age, women can visit the temple. It's not a life time exclusion. It can be taken as a rule of that temple(not all),for that specific age group (not every woman). So, many hindu families understnd cause they themselves follow periods back home.