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[banteg @banteg]

>be me
>longtermist
>future people matter just as much as people alive today
>completely agree
>there could be trillions of them
>also agree
>therefore we must decide what they need now
>hang on

>born in 1990
>making plans for people born in 2190
>they will have 164 more years of science
>164 more years of political experience
>164 more years of technological progress
>possibly machine superintelligence
>fortunately they also have me
>guy with a pdf

>explain that future generations may be unimaginably capable
>they could cure diseases
>build space habitats
>engineer new forms of intelligence
>solve problems we cannot even formulate
>incredible
>anyway i've worked out their priorities

>friend asks why they can't decide for themselves
>because by then it may be too late
>too late for what
>for us to tell them what to do

>imagine 5000 BC
>very serious longtermist meeting
>our descendants will face unimaginable dangers
>we must prepare
>manufacture 80 million stone axes
>bury them in strategic caches
>future-proof civilization
>bronze age begins
>lol
>lmao
>committee publishes report blaming insufficient stone-axis funding

>obvious lesson
>don't just leave descendants tools
>leave them the ability to make better tools
>education
>institutions
>science
>wealth
>optionality
>capacity to change course
>sounds suspiciously like helping people who are alive
>quickly return to asteroid scenarios

>friend says maybe the best thing for 2200 is to help 2050 become competent enough to help 2100
>then 2100 helps 2150
>then 2150 helps 2200
>sounds inefficient
>why use succession when i can personally optimize the year 2200 from my laptop

>explain moral uncertainty
>we should expect future people to know more than us
>possibly be morally wiser than us
>this is why we must be very careful not to lock in today's values
>friend nods
>asks whether they should be allowed to reject our values
>that's value drift

>very important distinction
>future people are morally equal to us
>they are not epistemically equal to us
>obviously
>they know less
>friend points out they literally live in the future
>ignore heckler

>write grant proposal
>goal: preserve humanity's option value
>excellent
>preserve options by building institution dedicated to one worldview
>hire people who agree the worldview should remain influential for centuries
>call this epistemic diversity

>someone proposes spending money on children today
>ridiculous
>their effect on the distant future is impossible to calculate
>someone proposes funding my speculative intervention
>its effect on the distant future is impossible to calculate
>exactly
>that's why expected value is so large

>imagine ancestor from 1720
>leaves me a letter
>dear descendant
>i have carefully considered your interests
>you must invest in sailmaking
>avoid electricity
>maintain the divine right of kings
>and under no circumstances revise these instructions
>laugh at primitive idiot
>open document titled
>"Recommendations for the Long-Term Future of Humanity"

>begin to understand the actual duty to descendants
>not "solve their problems for them"
>more like "don't destroy the world and leave them a functioning civilization"
>this seems disappointingly normal
>where are the exponents

>try new framing
>humanity is an intergenerational relay race
>our job is to hand over the baton in good condition
>next runner may be faster
>may choose a better route
>may discover the race is actually swimming
>important thing is not welding the baton to our hand

>colleague objects
>some problems really are irreversible
>asteroids
>nuclear war
>engineered pandemics
>AI
>fair enough
>then show that this problem actually requires action now
>show that delay destroys future options
>show that your intervention helps
>this sounds like a lot of work
>can't we just say 10^50 people

>realize the funniest part
>entire argument for longtermism depends on future civilization becoming vastly more capable than us
>entire argument for present control depends on future civilization being unable to reconsider our decisions
>Schrödinger's descendant
>smart enough to colonize the lightcone
>too dumb to edit the roadmap

>future humans convert stars into computronium
>build minds beyond our comprehension
>master matter and energy
>open ancient archive from 2026
>"hello descendants, we anticipated your needs"
>everyone stops
>thank god
>the stone-tool people left instructions

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this part is inspired by some @visakanv writings

[Erin Elizabeth Health Nut News🥜 @unhealthytruth]

Can this man please be the next president of the United States of America or at least be my new best friend Friend? 😍

I’m in love with him! 🤣😍 and look what he says about the 💉 too!

[Matt Van Swol @mattvanswol]

🚨#BREAKING: Outrage is erupting after a mob of Black "teens" dragged a White female college student off her own porch BY HER HAIR, dragged her to a stop sign, and then beat her UNCONSCIOUS... TWICE...

...while a crowd stood around FILMING it!!!

The girls called 911 **FIVE TIMES** that night, but police didn't show up until AFTER the beating was over.

This happened near York College in Pennsylvania.

A group of students, young White women, were on the porch of their off-campus house when a stranger walked up and picked a fight and a mob of Black "teens" rushed them.

One of the girls was ripped off the porch by her hair, dragged to a stop sign, then roughly a dozen people jumped her at once, kicking and punching her from every angle while a crowd of up to 30 encircled her.

She blacked out TWICE... once from a kick to the ribs and again from a blow to the back of the head.

And the whole time, she says, people were recording it on their phones and laughing... filming her get beaten unconscious for entertainment.

Her friends were dragged down the steps by their hair too. One was already in a knee brace, recovering from an injury.

The girls say they called 911 FIVE separate times.

The first calls went out BEFORE the violence even started, when a crowd was gathering and cars were street racing so recklessly that one of them smashed into a parked car next to the firehouse.

Five calls. They were told each time that officers were coming. Officers didn't arrive until it was over.

Students say this isn't new and that large crowds gather there constantly, and that another student was attacked just two weeks earlier by what they believe is the same group of non-students.

"The cops haven't done anything to protect us, and campus safety hasn't done anything. It feels like they're scared to get involved with 'these' people, but then it puts us at risk when they're doing nothing."

WE DO NOT HAVE TO LIVE LIKE THIS!!!!!!

[Devon Eriksen @Devon_Eriksen_]

If you actually believe that major AI dev enterprises are afraid of their own toys, and demanding that the US government regulate them, then please dial the number listed below.

... And we will connect you to a representative from the Federal Witless Protection Program.

This is Silicon Valley we are talking about, the reigning all-time champions of hubris and lack of perspective. Any one of these guys would burn the world if it meant he could be king of the ashes that remained.

No, they want a regulatory moat. A bunch of federal bureaucracy and compliance requirements that they can cut through with money, which will hopelessly entangle the open-source models following close behind them.

Why? And more importantly, why now?

Because AI is not on the verge of superintelligence at all.

Quite the opposite.

It's hit a point of diminishing returns. LLMs are great with language now, but they lack theory of mind, executive function, and a world-object model, and those are not little glue-on doodads. They are problems as deep as language processing, which humanity hasn't even scratched the surface of yet.

Several more fundamental paradigm-shifting breakthroughs will have to occur before humans even build sapience, much less superintelligence.

And AI companies cannot pull these innovations out of their collective asses, because it is the very nature of innovation to show up unexpectedly and by accident.

So why is this a crisis for OpenAI, et al, and why does it put them in danger from open source source models?

It's because of what I call Second Implementer Effect.

It's closely related to Second System Effect.

Ever notice how the first-to-market company doesn't always win in the long run? Ever notice how a second company frequently comes along and eats their lunch?

To develop something entirely new requires a lot of resources. A lot of investment. A lot of engineers.

And that means that once you actually build it, you are a big company with a lot of engineers. And they need something to do. You can't just trim sails and fire them, because you have a lot of investors and need a lot of revenue to pay them.

Line must go up.

So you build lots and lots of new features, for which you can charge more money.

You become Oracle. But 99% of the market doesn't want Oracle.

Customers don't want infinite features for infinite money. They only want more up to a certain point. After that, they want those features, and only those features, for as little money as possible.

And what often happens is that your first implementer shoots right past that point, gold-plating the product until nobody wants to pay for that much gold.

Then the second company, which just offers a basic product at a basic price, eats their lunch. Because the second implementer is the right size for the market.

In this case, the risk to OpenAI, et al, is that open source models will be that second implementer. Nobody is gonna pay giant data centers by the GPU cycle if they can have "good enough" running on their home machine.

And if AI have hit diminishing returns, or soon will (yes), then they can't widen or maintain the gap by speeding up.

They have to slow everyone else down.

You can bet they are burning up the phone lines to their pet senators.

That's why everyone is suddenly telling you the singularity is tomorrow. Precisely because it's not.

The Navier-Stokes thing is a double nothing burger, two juicy helpings of nothing between two slices of nothing, with no cheese, no lettuce, and no tomato.

Have you noticed that no one is telling you about all the wonderful new technologies that will result from the corner case they brute-forced?

Because there aren't any. Its a mathematician's toy, and if you want to know more about how and why, read what Feynman wrote about Banach–Tarski, which will give you the general idea.

Does this mean AI is useless?

Far from it. Large Language Models have already proven useful, for things like research, personalized instruction, coding and so forth. And we've only begun to scratch the surface of what we can do by communicating commands to a computer in natural language.

Cool things will continue to come out of this. But they will happen at the interface and application layers. No superintelligence will be involved.

For the immediate future, AI will remain the paintbrush, not the artist.

And, yes, there are also risks. AI can pretend to be human, and persuade retards of all sorts of things. But that's a human failing. It's not the AI's fault we let the retards vote.

That's how we got a whole bunch of midwit senators who want to "regulate" innovation, instead of medicare fraud, invading third world scum, and invading third world scum who commit medicare fraud.

[Collin Rugg @CollinRugg]

Female jurors in the Lindsay Clancy trial rip the lone male holdout juror who refused to side with them.

"He would not interact with us... He had the hardest time getting off the fact that Lindsay viciously killed her children."

Patriot.

[Wall Street Apes @WallStreetApes]

This is what happens when you let Muslims gain the majority

“In 2004, the people of Hamtramck, Michigan, voted to let the Muslim call to prayer sound over their streets five times a day. It passed by 262 votes. Progressives called it proof that tolerance really works. 19 years later, the all-Muslim city council that those same voters helped elect took the pride flag down from every public pole in the city unanimously.

What happened next was brutal”

Residents flooded into the city council meetings, the fiercely opposed the upcoming vote to ban pride flags. In the end, the city council voted to ban it on city property

But here’s where it gets crazier, they approved a rotating set of flags representing the countries that the city's residents had come from. Islamic countries…..

Hamtramck, Michigan became the first Muslim-majority city in the United States with the first Muslim Government

Here’s here it gets even more crazy. All 6 of the city council members were even born in America

- Mohammed Hassan - Bangladesh
- Nayeem Choudhury - Bangladesh
- Muhith Mahmood - Bangladesh
- Abu Musa - Bangladesh
- Mohammed Alsomiri - Yemen
- Khalil Refai - Yemen

It doesn’t stop there

- They approved Home animal slaughter in January 2023
- In December 2023 the council honorarily renamed a stretch of Holbrook as Palestine Avenue
- After two commissioners flew a pride flag on city property in defiance of the 2023 resolution, the council removed them and stripped the commission of control over flagpoles

[Joanna 🇵🇱 @joanna_jowisia]

Czerwony Bór, Wygoda...zambrowskie. Nielegalni migranci.

Dlaczego nie obok Sejmu?

(W Polsce 24)

[e-Janusz Ch. 🛷💉🪺 @Janusz_Ch_]

Ciapaki z południowych Indii zrobili sobie święto z okazji ZBIORU RYŻU w hotelu w Sękocinie pod Warszawą, ale poczuli moc alkoholu i się pobili między sobą XD
Czuję się coraz bardziej ubogacony, a wy?

@Akadiusz1 @KochanyPrezio @szef_dywizji @chrzanikx

[Polish Connection @PoleConnection]

This is a video from Poland a few days ago.

[I,Hypocrite @lporiginalg]

This retarded wigger got a widow and mother of 3 fired from her job because she rejected a black guy who was hitting on her. He actually brags about "life destruction."

We've set up a fundraiser for anyone who wants to support her and her children while she tries to find work.

[Vincent James @davincentjames]

A black caregiver coerced a vulnerable elderly white man into selling his house to her for $5.

Then she immediately stuck him in a home where he died weeks later and never told his kids.

The man’s daughter came to check on him only to find a black family moved into the house.

[Hugh Anthony @TheHughAnthony]

Watch me destroy Jayden Palmer on Nationality and make him admit that we have to accept it as progressive.

“You’re using the same argument as the Transgender debate”

[Nerd @NerdAthleticz]

Her not facing physical repercussions to her person is part of why society is failing

[Brotherhood @DiggingInTheDi1]

"Your universe has no meaning to them. They will not try to understand. They will be tired, they will be cold, they will make a fire with your beautiful oak door"

They are not humans despite being human-shaped

[🍊キュアめたら～☆🍊 @curemetaler623]

11年ぐらい前、引退して間もない友達の元力士に思いっきり体当たりしていいかと聞いたらええでーと余裕かまされたのでガチ全力で当たりに行った。1cmどころか、多分1mmも動かんかった。当時88キロぐらい。格闘家ですか？自衛隊員ですか？など言われるのが当たり前、結構鍛えていた当時の俺が全力でぶつかったのに、だ。缶ビールは余裕で30本飲む。メシは俺の5倍以上食う。ほんまに力士は規格外。絶対に勝てない。

[Benn Jordan @bennjordan]

Flock takes their privacy very seriously.

But the ethical gray area in surveillance technology works both ways.

Under no circumstances should elected officials or public servants enjoy an expectation of privacy when spending tax dollars to attend a surveillance lobbying event.

[Chiyo Chan's Last Soldier (INTOLERANT arc) @iprcneverdies]

Le experimental is subalt buzzslop deployed to shit on media that a bunch of performative circlejerkers viscerally loathe. You can have your avant garde, storyboard revolution,direction masterclass.

None of your slop is giving me the joy & serotonin a simple scene like this did.

[Alex Fairfax @Alex_Fairfax06]

They literally just drive around in cars looking for little girls to rape. It’s like a fun group activity for them.

[Flesh Simulator 🐧 @fleshsimulator]

One thing that cannot be overstated is the damage caused by inner city policy being set by white liberals who live in the suburbs and get their idea of the world from progressive journalists and nobody else.

If you are a suburban white leftist, please indulge me in a little experiment.

First, read how The Intercept describes this event, and picture it in your mind based off this description.

Then, watch the videos of the event.

Then extrapolate that to everything you read about, rather than see.