@ZELLKLUMPEN abortion is does not kill children. i’m responding to the claim you made, which is: ‘many abortion clinics perform abortion at stages that could be potentially as little as 10 minutes before birth’.
@ZELLKLUMPEN personal circumstances here can mean anything from ‘I have a severe mental illness’ to ‘my partner is abusive’. it is purposefully vague as to not discourage women from seeking reproductive care they may need, and their circumstances are decided on a case-by-case basis.
@ZELLKLUMPEN finally later procedures involve cervical preparation and feticidal injection and therefore typically take two days with inpatient care, they don’t just go in there with a scalpel and hammer.
@ZELLKLUMPEN This is not a valid question since it fundamentally misunderstands what abortion is and when it is performed. No clinic would go through with an abortion 10 minutes before birth, that’s absurd. The examples given so far have been extreme, and they are performed weeks before.
@ZELLKLUMPEN no you can’t, the two are not remotely comparable. infanticide is shifting the goalposts since it concerns children who possess separate legal personhood.
@ZELLKLUMPEN CARE is a specialist provider equipped to perform the procedure. as they state, to get this you need comprehensive tests, psychological evaluation, and the final decision to perform still rests with them. it’s not like you can just waltz in there and they’ll perform it.
@ZELLKLUMPEN the woman cannot perform the procedure on herself safely. she would be risking the wellbeing of both herself and her baby. at that point the law can’t really do anything even if it prohibited abortion, a woman who is that determined would go through with the procedure regardless.
@AlisDekay@postmanShmerg murder is not always immoral because that would render murder resulting from self defence also immoral, which many people would consider not immoral. rape on the other hand cannot be justified in the same way.
@kackeberg@F3ll4_@hansaFL@YouGov Yes exactly. If you need the 50K to pay your bills, feed yourself and your family you should absolutely do that no qualms. But if that money is going to sit in some investment account, then you should gamble the 1M because if you’re financially secure you can afford to lose.
@kackeberg@F3ll4_@hansaFL@YouGov By the way I don’t think the 1M is better for everyone in every situation. For someone like me the 1M is the more attractive option since I can afford to lose. If you’re going to use it just to invest, 50K at 7% compounding takes 44 years to reach 1M. Just gamble at that point.
@TheHistoryGuy07 no atheism does not presuppose materialism, many atheists are deeply spiritual. further, the scientist would have arrived at that answer even if they were religious since science is methodologically naturalist, it is disposed to find naturalistic answers to various phenomena.
@isaacabernathy4@postmanShmerg agreed. though whether abortion is murder or not is the issue in discussion, therefore you’re assuming the conclusion by saying this.
@Junior68553754@postmanShmerg i most closely identify with contractualism. an act is wrong if it would be disallowed by any principle that no one could reasonably reject as a basis for informed, unforced general agree. engaging in this act would violate the principle, therefore would be immoral.
@APompliano this graph is a totally different product than treasuries. this is a fund that tracks the performance of 20+ year treasuries, it behaves more like an equity than a bond. it is more sensitive to interest rate hikes, political events and supply and demand.
@tanyaelisabethh you can still be a mother and be a successful career person. unless your dream is to get to a position of political power/leadership in government/organisation, you will have time to find your person and have children later in life. it’s good for people to shoot for the stars.