That’s a much stronger argument because you’re looking at the full résumé, not just 6 vs 4. But LeBron’s case expands the criteria too: 4 MVPs, 4 Finals MVPs, 21 All NBA selections, the all time scoring record, 40K+ points, 11K+ rebounds, 11K+ assists and elite longevity.
Jordan absolutely has advantages, but once we agree championships are only PART of a larger evaluation, the debate becomes about how we weigh the entire body of work. That’s exactly why 6 vs 4 alone can’t end the GOAT discussion.
That’s another OPINION 😂 Y’all are elite at those. I’ve had plenty of people disagree with me, debate respectfully, and even like my posts because they can separate basketball from personal feelings.
You can’t. Once the facts get uncomfortable, you abandon basketball and start throwing personal insults. That doesn’t prove I lost. It proves you ran out of basketball arguments. 🤣
And the funniest contradiction? “Nobody cares what you say” while you’re writing paragraphs under MY posts about ME. 😂😂 Bro, I’m living in your head RENT FREE.
Pretend you don’t care all you want. Your notifications say otherwise. Thanks for commenting again, dummy. Let me know when you want another belt to ass in an actual basketball debate. 🤣🏀
I never once said I’d stop replying 😂 If I missed a notification while handing out these ass whoppings, say THAT. Running from YOU? Never. I’ve seen your posts, fam. You’ve got plenty you conveniently stop responding to too. 🤣
And since you brought up 2019, let’s use FACTS: Golden State entered the Finals as the SERIES favorite, around −270 to −320, despite KD already being injured. Toronto was favored for Game 1 specifically because it was in Toronto. Those are two completely different claims.
Toronto ultimately won 4–2. So stop turning “Toronto was favored in Game 1” into “Golden State wasn’t favored to win the series.” 😂
And the tough guy internet threats? Save that corny shit. You commented here, so let’s debate the basketball with evidence. I’m glad you showed up. Let’s see who actually runs now. 🤣
When I’m COOKING in a debate, there are only 3 possible endings, my victims do 😂
1. Mute me 🔇
2. Block me 🚫
3. Stop replying 🏃♂️💨
That’s THREE victims down 😭🤣
I don’t need you to admit I won. When the basketball arguments disappear and the exit button gets pressed, the concession speaks for itself. 😂🥊
3 DOWN. Who’s next? 🍳🔥
USA has to get it together. That was way too close 😭 Cecilia Zandalasini is HER. Not even her best game, but she consistently puts in work. Looking forward to watching her continue to grow and make her mark in the W. 🔥🏀
@MellowSpazout@DogeRomeo Fam, YOU commented on MY post 😂 What, you thought I was gonna let it slide? I’m passionate about exposing biased arguments, not the Bubble. Had you said “IMO it was weak,” cool. But you presented opinions as evidence. The fact remains: LA won. 🏆🤣
Bro, you’re proving my point 😂 The differences are facts. Saying those differences “took away from the game” is your INTERPRETATION of those facts.
Same rules, same bubble, same path for every team. One champion. 🏆 You’re arguing feelings about the format, not the legitimacy of the result. 😭
Bro you def high saying “there are no facts” 😂 The FACT is they played an NBA-sanctioned postseason and the Lakers WON. 🏆
You even said it yourself: “that’s their OPINION.” EXACTLY 😂 Different format is fact. Calling it “weak” is opinion.
Bro finally reached my argument and still thinks he disagrees 😭🤣🥊
Ohhh, so now the argument is “you already know the facts” instead of actually providing the facts? 🤣🤣🤣 ELITE debating right there.
Here’s an actual FACT: the NBA officially recognizes the 2020 Lakers as NBA champions. 🏆
“Bubble was weak” = your opinion.
Glad we cleared up the difference 😂🥊
Genuinely curious are you high when you respond to these? Because you literally be making no sense lol
As you “read everything,” I see you didn’t learn shit 🤣🤣 You just collected the points you already agreed with and called the rest “deflection.” You proving my point you’re following a conclusion, not analyzing the evidence.
No crowds, travel, neutral courts, extra rest? Cool. Those conditions applied across the Bubble. Different ≠ illegitimate.
You’re entitled to think it was weak. That’s an OPINION. The factual record still says the 2020 Lakers won the NBA championship under the format the NBA established. 😂🏆
You keep giving me feelings and calling them facts. I’m waiting on the part that actually invalidates the championship. 🥊
Now I KNOW you lying and don't read shit 🤣 You only read what agrees with you. Players advancing to Round 2 were allowed family/approved guests under the SAME league policy, up to four in most cases. That wasn't some LeBron-exclusive privilege.
And LeBron didn't even bring his kids; he chose not to because he didn't consider the Bubble kid-friendly. Rondo's own brother was literally in the Lakers family section. 😭
Bro tried turning an NBA-wide guest policy into LeBron privilege 😂 This is why we READ before arguing. 🥊
@MellowSpazout@DogeRomeo That argument hurts your point 😂 EVERY team got the same rest, no travel and no crowds. LA was the #1 seed, so removing home court actually took away an advantage THEY earned.
Same court. Same conditions. Go hoop. Calling it “weak” because of who won is the actual bias 😂🥊
Another victim in the books 🤣🤣🤣 Whether I get muted, blocked or unfollowed, I’m whooping these biased arguments regardless 😂 MUTE ME PLEASE!
You went from debating basketball to celebrating me being quiet because you STILL couldn’t answer the actual question 😭 That’s not a victory, that’s an escape hatch.
Now I get the satisfaction of watching you concede by hitting the mute button 😂🙏 Thanks for playing. Better luck next time. 🥊✅
😂 You’re not “getting ahead,” you’re retreating into a different question. Nobody disputed that wins are PART of evaluating management. Your problem is you keep treating those wins as evidence that management provided LeBron championship-caliber HELP.
Want the report card? Roster construction, asset management, drafting, trades, free agency, coaching decisions, cap management, depth, fit, development AND results.
Now explain why 66 wins proves the SUPPORTING CAST was championship caliber without using LE BRON’S MVP performance as evidence for his own help. THAT’S the question you keep running from. 😂🥊
You keep saying “AT THE TIME” like that fixes the logic 😂 It actually proves mine. At the time, the EVIDENCE was 66 wins and an MVP. That justified calling Cleveland a contender, not declaring the supporting cast championship caliber.
LeBron BEING the MVP is literally part of why they had the best record 😭 You can’t use the superstar’s dominance as proof of how good his HELP was.
Nobody said a championship was “outlandish.” The argument is whether that record proves LeBron had championship-level SUPPORT. It doesn’t.
You keep using evidence of how great LE BRON was to prove how great EVERYONE ELSE was. 😂 That’s the part you STILL don’t get.
😂 Bro, YOU are assigning the meaning now. LeBron saying he believed they could win it all proves LeBron believed in his team. It does NOT independently prove the supporting cast was championship caliber.
That’s the circular argument: “The roster was championship caliber because LeBron said they could win, and LeBron saying they could win proves the roster was championship caliber.” 😭
And this is especially funny because YOU spent hours telling me “championship caliber” is an OPINION. Now LeBron gives his opinion and suddenly it’s objective evidence? 🤣🤣 Pick a standard and KEEP IT.
Yes, imagine asking someone to provide facts supporting an opinion they keep presenting as a basketball argument. Absolutely outrageous 😂 If your opinion is “I like blue,” no evidence needed. If it’s “2020 was the weakest title ever,” you made a comparative claim. Now compare it. That's how debate works.
So “popular opinion” is the evidence now? 😂 Jordan being the GOAT is an opinion supported by an actual résumé and arguments. “2020 is the weakest ring ever” still requires criteria. Otherwise you’re basically saying “a lot of people agree with me, therefore I’m right.” Incredible analysis