WAR doesn’t say runs created matter more than runs prevented. It tries to put offense, defense and pitching on the same scale.
The real debate is whether it measures every part of the game equally well especially defense.
Being skeptical of WAR isn’t anti-stats. It’s questioning how much one number can really tell you.
That used to be much more true than it is today. Minor leaguers absolutely deserved better, but since they unionized and got their first CBA, pay, housing and benefits have improved substantially.
They’re certainly not getting rich in the minors, but the days of most guys making a few thousand dollars for the entire year and needing multiple jobs just to survive are not the same as they used to be.
@ElliottFPrice@Deadspin A draft bonus is the clearest example of a player getting significant money before proving himself in the majors. An extension comes after he’s shown he can do the job, The team may be buying future years, but the player has already earned that confidence.
The owners don’t have to give in, and the players don’t have to accept a salary cap. But if MLB makes a cap mandatory after the union has called it a nonstarter, that’s an impasse, not proof the players are negotiating in bad faith. Both sides need to bring proposals the other can actually consider.
@Miggysbat They’re not “overpaid”that’s what the market pays. When the industry generates more revenue, it can pay its workers more. Owners’ franchise values grow too. A salary cap isn’t about players being overpaid; it’s about limiting what teams can spend on them.
@Nyanasaur Minor leaguers are unionized now and making a lot more than they used to. If you want to help them, negotiate better pay and conditions directly. A cap on major-league salaries doesn’t guarantee owners will reinvest those savings in the minors or youth baseball.
@FranmilsEyebrow Hard to blame players for keeping their distance when some fans send them death threats like candy, then expect them to show up at Fan Fest and treat everyone like royalty.
@SotoC803 There’s no “likely” about it, the union has said a salary cap is a nonstarter. MLB keeps leading with it anyway. If 20 teams need to raise payroll to meet the floor, focus on that. Read the room.
@kirshsteinuri@BaseUnstitched Hard to blame players for keeping their distance when some fans send them death threats like candy, then expect them to show up at Fan Fest and treat everyone like royalty.
@STL_Stats_Facts A floor would push low-spending teams to spend more, but small-market teams may feel singled out if they’re expected to raise payroll without enough revenue sharing. The cap is a separate issue: it limits everyone’s ceiling.
@TheJRD87@EvanDrellich The NFL’s $50M+ contracts are mostly for elite quarterbacks. That doesn’t mean a cap helps the average player. A cap limits what teams can spend; a floor only requires spending a minimum. Why should MLB players accept a ceiling just because a few stars still get paid?
@BDJK47@JeffPassan Why should the players have to come back with anything less than what they want? This is a fight between the owners and the players over money and control. The players are the ones generating the revenue. They shouldn’t be expected to bargain against themselves to win over fans.
@AndrewL33629445@OutOfTheVines No, they won’t. A cap sets a ceiling; it doesn’t guarantee savings go to other players. Without a real spending floor and revenue sharing, owners can keep the money. Players don’t automatically earn more.
@MLB How many times will the MLBPA have to say. “THE CAP IS A NON-STARTER” quit bringing it to the table they will not listen if that’s what you’re opening with. This can be figured out without a cap