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Many years ago, we had an incredible football player who loved playing basketball and he also ran track.
In one week Pete Carroll of USC and Charlie Weiss of Notre Dame were in my office, offering him scholarships. In front of the student athlete I asked both of them if he should not play basketball his senior year. Both of them look puzzled and said we want our guys to play basketball and run track.
If the coaches at Notre Dame and USC are good with their potential running backs playing multiple sports so should current day high school and club coach coaches.
Many years ago, we had an incredible football player who loved playing basketball and he also ran track.
In one week Pete Carroll of USC and Charlie Weiss of Notre Dame were in my office, offering him scholarships. In front of the student athlete I asked both of them if he should not play basketball his senior year. Both of them look puzzled and said we want our guys to play basketball and run track.
If the coaches at Notre Dame and USC are good with their potential running backs playing multiple sports so should current day high school and club coach coaches.
Let’s face it HS PE and Foreign Language should be dumped as a requirement to get into colleges.
On the West Coast, the PE classes and foreign language classes are a joke. PE classes are basically all non-suits who walk the track and quality foreign language teachers are more valuable than gold.
Foreign language as an elective would be wonderful. Meaningful PE classes don’t exist anymore or are very rare nowadays.
It’s time they both go away. I’m in favor of the little guys - elementary school and middle school learning foreign languages and having PE but not the high school kids.
I’ve said this before. Drop foreign language as a requirement and make it an elective. Staffing issue solved. American students don’t become close to being bilingual from public school foreign language courses.
Hi coach Edgar -you’re saying what I’m saying just in a different way. The elimination of the 23-40 as you say will make the portal players even more valuable ecomonically which is one of the outcomes of this decision that I spoke of.
As you also know - the collectives are not an unlimited pot of money. Note - I was offered a job not two years ago to raise funds for a collective at a well known college and after looking at the projections vs needs I determined the whole model isn’t sustainable- but only to a few colleges and conferences.
At some point the HS player will become a commodity again to D-II and smaller conference D-1 / 1-AA who simply can’t afford to compete economically with the SEC, Big 10 Big 12 and ACC schools.
The redshirt is dead — and most programs aren’t ready for what that means.
Every scholarship now starts a 5-year clock the moment a kid enrolls or turns 19. No extensions. No medical freezes.
That changes recruiting, roster building, and player development in one stroke.
Birthday math is now part of every offer conversation. A kid who turns 19 before he steps on campus has already burned time. Coaches who ignore that will regret it.
The portal gets leaner but more expensive. Fewer players with extra eligibility means a smaller pool — and the ones in it will cost more.
The programs that win this era won’t be the ones with the most NIL money. They’ll be the ones who evaluate 17-year-olds better than everyone else and stop hiding developmental needs behind a redshirt year.
The margin for error just got really small. @jrichardgoodman@VinnysCorner1@SergeantMartee@BeholdPaleH0rse #portal #NCAA @latsondheimer@KasselMedia #recruits #eligibility #hssports #coaches #coach
BREAKING: The NCAA is officially adopting the age-based eligibility structure, giving players 5 years to play 5 seasons from either when they enroll or from the season they turn 19 (whichever comes first).
The Division I cabinet was unanimous in their vote for the new model.
Coaches of Georgia - you are going to really get me started on this topic. You mentioned the win and loss records of us HS coaches. How important can travel basketball games, 7 on 7 tournaments and club baseball realistically be when the tournaments they enter have 5 to 7 games in a weekend?
You wanna know why you’re seeing so many injuries in the NBA because kids are playing too goddamn much. There are basketball kids that are now playing over 60 games a year from the time they are eight years old until the time they graduate high school how healthy can that be?
Out on the West Coast, where I’ve spent my career baseball can be played every single day and guess what most of the players do that exact thing? How healthy can that be to play baseball year-round? If I’m a parent of a pitcher, I would slow play his development and limit how many games he can play in a year counting fall winter spring and summer baseball.
All things being equal, I am amazed at how gullible parents are. On the West Coast youth football coaches who can’t pass fingerprint test are advising parents and Players to red shirt eighth grade simply so they can play another year of Pop Warner football. Club coaches who didn’t graduate college giving advice on the recruiting process.
There are some great club coaches in all sports but the truly great ones understand the value of building community and getting along AND WORKING WITH the local high school coaches.
Coach Burlage - thanks for the reply.
Can we agree on a few things here? Prior to club baseball the major league didn’t miss on too many players, after all somebody signed Babe Ruth and Barry Bonds. Clayton, Kershaw and Albert Pujols didn’t play club baseball either. You get my point if players are good enough in all sports they’re going to be found.
In my sport, a basketball which I coached about the collegiate and high school level there has to be an uneasy truce with the EYBL coaches and Adidas league coaches. The NCAA has set up a system that essentially takes the high school basketball coach Coach out of the equation.
Football coaches have forever, lifted weights and practiced in the summer. Any football coach wanting to work hard in the summer is exactly why he was hired. Whoever this football coach is in question is showing normal behavior.
Baseball is such a unique animal. Their scholarship situations are shaky at best. Most baseball athletes have just as much chance getting as much academic scholarship $ as baseball money.
Club basketball, baseball, volleyball, and now 7 on7 are beyond oversaturated. For instance, in San Jose, California there are more club basketball teams than one person can count all of them selling dreams of scholarships and yet San Jose might have one scholarship player a year in a city / area of about 2 million.
If parents are insisting on a player playing club basketball or baseball instead of going to summer workouts, then that’s gonna be their problem and their problem in the long run is gonna hurt their kid.
If club coaches choose to alienate the local football basketball baseball coaches I’m not sure how successful they’re gonna be in the long run.
We have a saying in basketball. “ in our attempt to find the next Michael Jordan we are preventing the next Michael Jordan”.
The adults have to put the Student-Athlete first. Each athlete in his her ability are going to have different needs in June and July.
I’m convinced coaches can work this out.
Coach Hill - can we agree it’s NOT in your benefit to alienate the local football coaches?
Many of these coaches could turn into athletic directors, or principals at schools you may want to be the Head varsity baseball coach at or land at school where you simply want to rent their schools facilities for your club program?
My intuition tells me we’re not talking about a lot of players here. How many players can’t play with you because of football workouts ? That’s a big piece missing here .
Would it not be a better tactic to sit down with the varsity baseball coach at the school you’re talking about first and then approach the football coach and see if there are some dates that could possibly work out for the athlete you want a certain tournaments?
What do you think?
Why can’t the football coach, baseball coach, student-athlete, parents and AD
Create a summer schedule that everyone can agree on?
Don’t forget this athlete needs to be a kid while having fun & not getting burnt out.
You high school football coaches having mandatory practice literally the week after school ends, first week of the summer so your football team can go 5-4 and not make the playoffs in the fall are absolute clowns
@thewizeblkman@TBlazer5AS1 Generally speaking a club coach would not and should not publicly bash a football coach at a high school in his area because there’s gonna be so many more players in the future that he might want to share.
Relationships are so important and coaching for many reasons.
@jenteach13 As a young teacher I used to try and fight every battle. Criticism from parents either bothered me or got me very upset.
Nowadays, I’m able to laugh it off and realize their misguided perceptions have no bearing on my reality or any reality for that matter.
The truth is unless our student- athlete is a national level player- the club teams, who we try & accommodate by allowing them to use our facilities, come in a distant second place to our on-campus teams summer schedules.
A four star QB throwing 94 is going to get a bit more leeway in trying to set his summer schedule around true exposure situations.
One of my basketball players who received multiple division 1 offers and who played EYBL began playing football his junior year in August and he ended up having a nice career in the NFL.
I try to foster the best environment I can for student athletes to play as many Sports as possible.
@Jeff03219352207@CoachMarcusHill Sidenote, all of these issues should be thoroughly discussed after the first round of interviews for coaching jobs.
It’s such an important topic and don’t see how the A.D. in this situation didn’t get involved and make sure everyone’s on the same page.
I can’t tell you how many years I got with the head football coach and we literally created our summer schedules together. That way the Players could go to their seven on seven, called passing tournaments back then, and play in every summer league game and tournament.
That’s how adults should do it.