This is powerful. These are the kind of conversations we need, people with skin in the game. This man says his grandfather & uncles were fighting in 1967 & 1973. They would have been fighting my own father & uncles.
I listen to this stranger speak and just want to hug him.
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This may be the SINGLE BEST MOMENT on Spaces ever by @malasqalani a Muslim from Cairo on the Gaza/Israel war hosted by @nelsonepega tonight.
@johngall__@RachelMoiselle@loi_talk This is an unbelievable response to Rachel's very reasonable question. Take a long hard look at yourself and think why it is you didn't mention the horror of Oct 7th. Really, just sit with it for a while. Think about why that might be a problem.
‘06:29AM – The Moment Music Stood Still’ – exhibition on October 7 Nova Festival terror attack opens in London
It powerfully evokes the aftermath of the attacks, using original staging, vehicles and personal belongings recovered from the scene https://t.co/rtGHAXmxUb
This is a devious rhetorical trick. Labeling someone a “Nakba survivor” is designed to evoke instant sympathy and a false sense of moral clarity, but it is little more than taxpayer-funded propaganda.
Consider the absurdity: roughly 99% of Palestinian Arabs alive in 1949 survived the war and its displacements. Calling the displaced a “survivor” stretches the word beyond recognition. It is a newly coined term, crafted in academia and activist circles long after the events.
Its real genius lies in creating false equivalence. It places ordinary Palestinian civilians who were displaced amid a war their own leaders launched on the same moral plane as Holocaust survivors (of whom only about one-third emerged alive).
It airbrushes away the ~6,000 Jews killed in 1948, elevates the ~12,000 Arab deaths, and erases the thousands of Jews forcibly expelled from the Old City of Jerusalem and other areas.
By anointing the displaced as sacred “survivors,” the term invites us to forget that the Nazi-aligned Palestinian leadership rejected the UN partition plan, chose war to prevent any Jewish state, and promised quick victory while urging Arabs to flee.
It glosses over Israel’s Declaration of Independence, which explicitly invited Arab inhabitants to “participate in the upbuilding of the State on the basis of full and equal citizenship.” And it conveniently overlooks the ~150,000 Arabs who stayed put, accepted Israeli citizenship, and whose descendants now form over 20% of Israel’s population.
This is international grievance politics pushed by the Mayor of New York City, who genuinely believes that Palestinians should be able to “return to their homes” – a nonsensical idea designed to justify perpetual victimhood and violence.
The move weaponizes real civilian hardship while inverting roles: turning a war of choice and rejectionism into an unprovoked “catastrophe” inflicted by the intended victims. It sustain grievance and does not nothing to advance peace.
@_ZachFoster Is that all that happened Zachary? Was just one side committing atrocities here? Might you be omitting a significant amount of information here that might be painting a highly misleading picture? Or do you think youve sufficiently covered everything?
@Narcomania Its people like you who are a streak of piss. You will willingly & enthusiasticly believe anything, even the impossible, if it is about Israel, no matter how flimsy the source and testimony. Yet reject or ignore a report from thousands of hours of testimony, video and photos.🖕
@nicolelampert NME for example yesterday posted a video interview with the Sinn Fein Clown Posse (you know who i mean) where they explain that antisemitism is a "real problem" but "the Zionist lobby" is watering down the term antisemitism.
I want to scream.
@nicolelampert I'd argue this sort of reporting is the most dangerous. Via articles like this, and too many to count in the Music press, antisemitism has insidiously worked its way into the culture to the point where most people can't even identify it, and so actively participate in it.
@TONE1923@ZackPolanski I think he does that constantly. Daily even. But for some reason can't seem to condemn antisemitism without using the word genocide. Probably because people like you would turn your back on him if he did.
@ZackPolanski Ni Zack, calling out antisemitism should be completely unconditional. But you know if you did that you would lose followers and momentum.
@hilarywilce The thing is it isn't. The "for fun" accusation ignores Hamas strategy of operating within civilian areas, encouraging the "martyrdom" of children, and creating a battleground that is guaranteed to bring about about the death of innocent people. Why is this not also condemned?
@arobin0888@MichaelRosenYes I don't think i've defended any of those things, but funny you mention Yemen as thats where my Dad and his family fled from in 1948 when the pogroms started. But I guess mentioning that is a "distraction"
@jvgraz@MichaelRosenYes It's definitely a racist policy. Now do the surrounding 22 Arab States, Italy, Poland, Hungary, Greece, Armenia, Japan, South Korea, China, India, Pakistan, Turkey
@gvuckovic@MichaelRosenYes ...for 25 years, i can steelman both sides of the Israel/Palestine argument and I have reached my own conclusions. By no means am I blind to Israeli atrocities but I also will not pretend they are the only ones guilty of such. I highly recommended the YT link I shared. ☮️
@gvuckovic@MichaelRosenYes Ah yes, the guy who one week after the mass slaughter of 1400 Jews wrote a fluff piece about Hamas. I should definitely listen to him.
Look man, appreciate you have kept things civil but we are probably both wasting our time here. I have been pursuing knowledge on this now...
@imelda_mairead@MichaelRosenYes I hope not.
You can blame the British and French and Sykes-Picot for a lot of the current mess. Given the worldwide history of antisemitism that saw a 3rd of the Jewish population erased, letting them keep their tiny piece of land & leaving them the fuck alone seems reasonable
@gvuckovic@MichaelRosenYes I've read Pappe and find him to be disingenuous. Take this excert from his History Of Modern Palestine. He actually admits in the intro to disregarding facts to promote a bias.
Righteous Victims by Benny Morris is as close to an unbiased & comprehensive history of the land imo