@andrewhesselden The most obvious advantage is that our laws are once again made in the UK by people we can vote for.
I appreciate you might find this difficult, but please try to understand it isn’t difficult for everyone. Reach out if you need help.
@IRTyrrell@lynneictfan@jaykelly26 While that’s technically correct, being part of a geographical entity isn’t synonymous with nationality or culture. Scotland has a distinct culture, and the irreverence that drives the compulsion to crown statues with traffic cones is absolutely Scottish.
@RuairiAodh@Danecek3000@frgbju@TerraOrBust@CazGR81@infomotiveUK Oh dear. You’re clearly struggling with this. Do you have television in your world? Electricity? You do realise that thing in your hand right now is a type of computer? Tech new to you?
You’re clearly just trolling now - switching you off. Tioraidh.
@RuairiAodh@Danecek3000@frgbju@TerraOrBust@CazGR81@infomotiveUK Instead of pursuing this solution, the EU insisted on a constitutional fudge requiring citizens of one country to fall under the legal framework of another. It’s a mess.
Of course, the EU doesn’t care about a mockery of democracy. It has form here - eg ROI’s Lisbon referendum
@RuairiAodh@Danecek3000@frgbju@TerraOrBust@CazGR81@infomotiveUK I already explained this. All goods are tracked by modern logistics systems, at an extremely granular level. Any goods in transport are tracked across borders and customs duties/restrictions applied accordingly. If you order a toothpick these days, the vendor knows its location.
@RuairiAodh@Danecek3000@frgbju@TerraOrBust@CazGR81@infomotiveUK That’s exactly the point. While the UK did not choose this path, it was free to do so. Instead it entered the TCA with the EU. ROI, on the other hand, is not free to set its own border or customs conditions. ROI is bound to the EU’s rules. ROI has the obligation, not the UK.
@RuairiAodh@Danecek3000@frgbju@TerraOrBust@CazGR81@infomotiveUK You keep repeating yourself. If you cast your memory back (not very far), the difference in our understanding was that I classified a hard border as restricting the movement of people as well as goods. The CTA has allowed ROI and UK citizens to move freely since 1922.
@RuairiAodh@Danecek3000@frgbju@TerraOrBust@CazGR81@infomotiveUK 2/2 It’s a concession the UK should never have had to make. Instead, the EU used a possible resurgence of violence as a point of leverage. In modern logistics, every toothpick, screw, button or matchstick is tracked digitally. There is no need for physical border infrastructure.
@RuairiAodh@Danecek3000@frgbju@TerraOrBust@CazGR81@infomotiveUK Finally a starting point - good that you have publicly condemned Irish republican terrorism. Next you can express gratitude to the UK state for having made a huge concession to ensure peace by leaving some of their citizens under the EU’s legislative influence. 1/2
@RuairiAodh@Danecek3000@frgbju@TerraOrBust@CazGR81@infomotiveUK 2/2 .. because the UK reverted to the baseline for international trade. Which was WTO rules. The UK also had the option to remove all border and customs restrictions and trade as a completely open economy. It’s EU membership that creates the legal obligation on ROI.
@RuairiAodh@Danecek3000@frgbju@TerraOrBust@CazGR81@infomotiveUK Case in point. The Anglo-Irish agreement of 1922 is in itself an enforceable agreement which was designed to avoid further conflict. But you only want to enforce the Good Friday agreement, right? It’s all you refer to. As for ‘separate market’ - this is absolute nonsense….1/2
@RuairiAodh@Danecek3000@frgbju@TerraOrBust@CazGR81@infomotiveUK You have such a short memory. We discussed the definition of hard border a few posts ago. You changed your definition during the discussion. Also, you forget the argument. The UK wanted a digital solution, not physical infrastructure. Which is in itself a concession.
@danielanadj77 Not sad for me, and I’m British. The German mindset thinks unification (Ever Closer Union etc) is a cornerstone of peace, but it doesn’t feel that way to us. We want to do business, but we’re fiercely independent. We went to war in WW2 to defend other countries’ independence.