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@BolshevikBeyond Analytical Marxism destroyed, Ben Burgis in shambles.

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@drumm_colin @DR0WN3DFISH @pashtunmarxism Their strategic objectives aren’t something separate and apart from capital because capital has produced them and their objectives. The objectives need not be “make as much money as possible” for it to nonetheless be useful to capital when all is tallied up.

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@drumm_colin @DR0WN3DFISH @pashtunmarxism Saying they bear the logic of capital does not mean that they confuse it for their “true” self interest. Whatever their “true” self interest might be, the ones who enable the logic of capital are the ones that actually succeed, and so there is continual incentive to do that.

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@BolshevikBeyond Millions must read the introduction to the Grundrisse. Production produces objects of consumption, and the consumption of those objects produces the internal image which serves further production (i.e it produces need).

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@BolshevikBeyond This guy is a bot. Just block him lol

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@BolshevikBeyond Please do, I would love to read that

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@BolshevikBeyond I always understood “definite” to mean defined, determined, codified, etc.

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@BolshevikBeyond Where is Dileep Edara’d reading?

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@chlouds121600 @drfunkenst3in I disagree, but I have admittedly not read the book. My understanding of it though is that he mostly just reinterprets it through rational choice theory, which I think is fundamentally antithetical to a Marxist analysis of action.

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@chlouds121600 @drfunkenst3in I dont think you can call any of Cohen’s work a direct reconstruction of Marx. Do you think that “Karl Marx's Theory of History: A Defence” accurately characterizes Marx’s views? I certainly don’t think it does

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@drfunkenst3in You can think, independent of this, that it’s correct or makes good points. You cannot, however, say that it even somewhat resembles Marx’s critique of capitalism.

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@drfunkenst3in I don’t know who said this to you, but my main contention is that analytic Marxism sucks because it is using the name of Marx when it has almost nothing to do with him. It is much better described as a subset of liberal egalitarianism.

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@kaywisehero @godandhismercy @ActualistAction @BolshevikBeyond I don’t have anyone blocked as it stands

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@kaywisehero @godandhismercy @ActualistAction @BolshevikBeyond It seems to only be the ones where you’re linking to another thread. This one showed up fine. I did kinda suspect this guy was a bot though, or maybe I’m just afraid of em dashes now

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@kaywisehero @godandhismercy @ActualistAction @BolshevikBeyond I think you’re shadowbanned. Your replies aren’t coming up in my notifications, I only see you when the other guy responds and I actively look. @godandhismercy check the post I’m replying to.

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@ActualistAction @BolshevikBeyond Im not disagreeing that I’ve discarded mechanical materialism, but the point remains that consciousness is not fundamental. Hegel makes consciousness the starting point from which the other stuff falls out, and Marx sees consciousness as a social product

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@ActualistAction @BolshevikBeyond Again, I just don’t agree that the subjectivity preexists the social objectivity of language, I read them as co-emergent. That’s why animals aren’t conscious, they can’t orient toward their activity as an object.

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@ActualistAction @BolshevikBeyond Abstraction occurs in both forms. Capitalism isn’t the only kind of abstraction. Previous social forms also had alienation.

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@ActualistAction @BolshevikBeyond It does both. Alienation isn’t just one thing. Subjectivity exists when sensuousness can exist as a common object in language as separate from direct sensuous experience, but this can then be further alienated by capitalism trying to ground it in a false objectivity (value)

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@ActualistAction @godandhismercy @BolshevikBeyond They’re not *just* the past byproducts of human sensuous activity. Nonhumans are also engaged in sensuous activity. “The will” is not determinative here.