But that’s not how the Rosary is structured it doesn’t say Hail Mary, Hail Mary, Hail Mary for some favor. The Hail Mary clearly is all about Christ.
Hail Mary full of Grace.
Who is Grace? Is it not Jesus Christ!
The Lord is with you, is Jesus Christ not with her?
Blessed are you among woman and blessed is the seed of your womb, Jesus…
. Do you disagree with Luke that she will be called blessed… she is only blessed because of Chirst not because of her.
Holy Mary, mother of God.
Is Jesus Christ not God?
Pray for us sinner now and at the hours of our death…. There it is she is interceding and asking for us not answering the prayer as if she is God.
The babbling pagans never prayed in this fashion? Christ does this 3 times to show case that repetition isn’t the issue the issue is the intention, the heart, the posture.
Matthew 7:1–2
“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged…”
Luke 6:37
“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven.”
James 4:11–12
“Do not speak evil against one another… There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?”
Romans 14:4
“Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls…”
Romans 14:10–12
“Why do you pass judgment on your brother? … For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God.”
1 Corinthians 4:5
“Therefore do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord comes…”
@NoFriendOfWorld@riecker I’ve literally just posted 2 Thes 3 and it’s not what you’re stating isn’t that something. Humble yourself and your false conviction in damning people to hell when you don’t even know scripture
@NoFriendOfWorld@riecker If you believe and love Christ you don’t just have faith you have faithfulness. A loving husband who cheats on His wife would not be considered faithful so why are you exempt His Will and Word which clearly showcases love in action participating in all life?
Yes let’s read it shall we Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from any brother who is walking in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us. For you yourselves know how you ought to imitate us; we were not idle when we were with you, we did not eat any one’s bread without paying, but with toil and labor we worked night and day, that we might not burden any of you. It was not because we have not that right, but to give you in our conduct an example to imitate. - 2 Thessalonians 3:6-9
Revelation 5:8
“…each holding a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.”
Revelation 6:9–10
“The souls of those who had been slain… cried out with a loud voice…”
Revelation 8:3–4
“…he was given much incense to offer with the prayers of all the saints…”
What would the saints in heaven be praying about if they are in a state of Grace? The Cloud of Witness. Are you denying scripture?
@NoFriendOfWorld@riecker More assumptions from outer appearances where is your evidence besides butchers scripture and a false narrative.? I’m waiting of an actual source besides your own interpretation and you haven constantly failed to prove this
@NoFriendOfWorld But what if you are the one who is going to hell? Hypothetically because I again I’m not God and leave judgement to Him which you haven’t showcased at all. Just pride
@NoFriendOfWorld@riecker Facts? It’s just your own interpretation with nothing to back it up and it’s why you hate the Fathers who have affirmed the Catholic faith and label them as wolves at your own convenience
@NoFriendOfWorld@riecker We shall see in the finally hours you have condemned but what if it’s you that’s wrong in the last hour? Then what? You’ll burn in hell for eternity? Or does that not apply to you?
Why only use one liners instead of the full context of scripture because you’re missing so much information when you do this subjective dance.
You grab one verse and say Aha that’s what those Papist are doing they are wrong but the very verses before and after draw a completely different picture
@NoFriendOfWorld@riecker Are we having separate conversations this doesn’t address more than half of what I represent or do you need me to break that down also? Shall I show were I have engaged with screenshots while
You have slopped around in tangents?
But scripture itself doesn’t state this. Scripture Shows how self interpretation can lead one to misunderstanding and why having elders from
Apostolic tradition shouldn’t be condemned but trusted. Yet I could say you don’t have the Holy
Spirit since you lack objective knowledge it’s all been subjective opinion without any evidence besides “trust me bro” I got the Holy
Spirit and you don’t “ I know better” because I can think and feel it for myself… so horrendous and spiritually immature and you have been doing this for
35yrs. Lord have mercy you have mislead many souls and most importantly have gone against the Holy Spirit for your own spirit
I’ve literally have engaged with most of your text and positions maybe if you actually read what’s presented instead of blabbering In tangents might help you understand the premise and content of what’s being presented instead of dismissing it all but that’s for actually being honest
Faith is a by product of
love and grace and faithfulness is the true expression of faith. There is no faith alone and isolating elevates one to a purely egoistic mental accentuation. No one is claiming that Grace lacks anything it’s displaying that Grace allows to act which is affirmed in the Cathechim.
Justification is the most excellent work of God’s love made manifest in Christ Jesus and granted by the Holy Spirit. It is the opinion of St. Augustine that the justification of the wicked is a greater work than the creation of heaven and earth…”
CCC 1998
“This vocation to eternal life is supernatural. It depends entirely on God’s gratuitous initiative, for he alone can reveal and give himself. It surpasses the power of human intellect and will, as that of every other creature.”
CCC 1999
“The grace of Christ is the gratuitous gift that God makes to us of his own life, infused by the Holy Spirit into our soul to heal it of sin and to sanctify it.”
CCC 2001
“The preparation of man for the reception of grace is already a work of grace.”
CCC 2010
“Moved by the Holy Spirit and by charity, we can then merit for ourselves and for others the graces needed for our sanctification…”
Why not address the context and content of it. I truly thought you were a honest person but after this discussion I truly see it is you who is blinded by your hate for the Catholic Church the same Protestant propaganda. I know you won’t since you are an intellectual coward but let’s fully dive into the Catechism. You used not let’s use it all and let’s use all of your subjective points shall we? Let’s have a true cross examination instead of fallacious statements