So there’s this practice that’s ubiquitous in the world. People kill their own children for favor from the gods. The Bible depicts a man about to carry out the task, when a messenger from God tells him God will not ask this of him. This sets up a culture differentiated from all around it. One that rejects human sacrifice as a means of worship. A moral standard that is spread through its religion and its offshoots. A moral standard that so permeates our culture that now thousands of years later after the religious belief has waned but the morality still holds, an unbeliever points to the story as some horrible wickedness. He points to it as an example of how Christian morality isn’t different than the barbaric practices of others. He’s unable to see how silly his argument is and that’s a shame.
They call him the Soup Nazi. Well, thats's a lofty accusation - one that could end your life in this country.
I like soup. I eat a bowl of chicken and stars every morning. Does liking Gespacho make me a Gestapo? *laughs hysterically*
(Serious voice) No, of course not.
Of course the poems are about war and women have always had a peripheral role in war, but if you wanted to explore the inner lives and struggles of those women you could read Euripides. I doubt she has. I doubt her education made her aware of those plays. Instead it molded her, and millions like her, to center herself in every discussion, to demand to be the focus even when inappropriate. It’s obviously worked out well for her.
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@Jayesdub187293@NewsM101 Lmao “insane”? Okay. You seem set in your ways and that’s fine. Thank you for this discussion. First time I’ve argued with a stranger on here.
@Jayesdub187293@NewsM101 If my views are that of an “idiot”, would you be willing to read books that would challenge your worldview? If we’re all just idiots then you should have nothing to be afraid of. I would also take recs from you if you earnestly wanted me to change my views.
@Jayesdub187293@NewsM101 I understand your points. I disagree with them. By your own standards that you’ve described, goodness doesn’t mean anything. If anything can be “good” based on societal/cultural norms of their times, then nothing is actually good. Does your explanation not assert that?
@Jayesdub187293@NewsM101 outside us that we cooperate with, then you must take it one some faith that any human development is good. But why is it good that humans develop? Maybe it would be better if we didn’t? Is it morally worse to impose extinction on us only because the average person wants life?
@Jayesdub187293@NewsM101 By your logic, you are still tied to a morality. It’s the one of the present. If you know that human patterns will change many years from now, as they do, it then wouldn’t make sense to be attached to your views. Why is it good to care about people? If morality isn’t something…
I’m Mexican and I’m glad they lost. Too many violent fans and fans who were fine with stupid excess. Them being eliminated potentially saved a life or two.
@Jayesdub187293@NewsM101 My question then would be: why do you bother? Aren’t these “societal intersubjective stances” just patterns? Do patterns mean truth? What would you conclude if these patterns suggested to you that war and rape were natural and permissible as they were through most of Antiquity?
@Jayesdub187293@NewsM101 then make one. How ought we to act in your world? If there are parameters, then it sounds like you also believe in objective value in morals. But we differ on what it looks like.
@Jayesdub187293@NewsM101 You’ve changed the subject. You’ve moved on from moral imperatives to utilities for the progression of our species. Then you must answer are all things that help the development of our species/societies morally good? What about war and rape?
If you can make ought statements…
@kmbyrne@Mormonger be an injustice that we never become just like God? I don’t think any of us could ever have the possibility of being equal to the highest being that could ever exist. Equal to the source of all moral truths and physical and metaphysical existence.
@kmbyrne@Mormonger I don’t think it’s a question of power. It’s about spiritual reality. Only God is God, and even in our (hopeful) wish to be in heaven with him, that’ll never mean we are no longer “children” of God. I don’t see that as cruel. I see it as an impossibilty. Would it necessarily…
@kmbyrne@Mormonger Can fall into sin, and can do what He wants regardless of His nature, then where would you say the moral law comes from? What is the true origin of moral truths?
@kmbyrne@Mormonger I’m not certain what you meant be pointing out Jesus being the only “begotten son”. Was that regarding my comment about God being outside of time?
I disagree. Perfection cannot be weakness. I don’t think humans are made of the same “stuff” that God is. If God can be weak and…