@antonliubich My challenge to Gary and his supporters is a simple one - wealth taxes aren't new. They've been tried in various forms in various states over decades. So which specific version would Gary suggest we adopt and what were the outcomes in terms of sustainable tax revenues and growth?
@A1an_M Leftwing terror response playbook:
1) Too early to speculate but probably nothing political.
2) Ok so it's potentially political but let justice do its work.
3) So essentially a political murder but don't prejudice trial, we can discuss later.
4) Memory holed.
@AlternativeMUFC He plays for an English club, United fans pay his wages. Insulting our nation and those who died in the Falklands conflict just isn't on. He didn't need to hold the banner. He should be sold.
@jeremycorbyn According to the Sunday Times Rich list there are 156 billionaires with total net worth (including overseas assets of c£700bn) so that implies total UK wealth of c.£2.8tn which is less than 1 year of UK GDP. So your claim is absurd.
@GOPIsrael Would be an incredibly unwise thing to do. We would come off worse in the scheme of things. But get are literally no countries in the world that can better fuck the US into oblivion than the UK.
So hesitate, pause and fuck off.
@AlternativeMUFC Sell the prick. Maybe turkey, maybe Greece, who cares? Highest bidder.
He held the banner when he plays for an English club. He knew what he was doing. End of.
@ZackPolanski You are 43. For the last ten years you've been a political activist and before that you were a hypnotherapist and jobbing actor. The idea that you have created anything, built anything, contributed to wealth creation or had anything taken from you is utterly laughable.
@afneil It is yet another example of people who largely despise their country and consider themselves "citizens of the world" looking to undermine their own country and in doing so try and blame that on Brexit (a policy I voted against).
In the EU/ out the EU, just say No.
@CurtisDaly_ I have a question for anyone advocating a wealth tax - it's not a new idea, where has it been done and the outcome has been a sustainable increase in tax revenues and economic growth? Just one example.
@moving_charlie A simpler explanation - there is a relationship between what a country produces and what it spends. Any attempts to deny that relationship ends in economic crisis. Always.
@CurtisDaly_@moving_charlie Let's say I have £100 to invest. I buy a company and hope that it grows and I make say, 8% a year - which is an above market return.
After 5 years your tax has taken 27% of my gain. I then sell or take divides and you take another 20%.
Or I go elsewhere.
@DanielPriestley I think there's a simpler point. If you really want to better your lot what would you do: (i) work, build, network etc; or (ii) wait for the Government to solve it for you?
Anyone, but anyone, with half a brain would choose (i). So why do so many people think (ii) will help?
@technopopulist@DanNeidle There is a very simple solution to this debate. Wealth taxes aren't new. They've been tried in various forms for over 100 years. What model does Gary have in mind and what were the real world outcomes on sustainable long term tax revenues and economic growth?
@andrew_lilico@Jacob_Rees_Mogg Something is (i) illegal (or someone is reasonably suspected of having done something illegal) in which case the police should take action; or
(ii) legal in which case it's none of their business.
There is no grey area and nor should there be.
@FUDdaily Solutions: (i) strict and consistent enforcement of all laws & regulations; (ii) strict justice system inc deportations for foreign offenders; and (iii) zero access to any form of welfare and non-blue light services for foreign nationals.
I bet 70%+ of voters would support this.
@campbellclaret 1) These men were arrested and prosecuted.
2) The authorities don't look the other way.
3) Random family members didn't join in.
4) They were born here, the state didn't choose to import them.
5) Their communities didn't cover for them.
Do you seriously not understand?
@defossardf@HopeNotHate68 There's a simple solution - immigration is fine but (i) no access to welfare or public services; and (ii) must be economically net fiscal positive.
Means the "engineers" that Femi claims makes us all richer can still come whilst reducing numbers.
@Danjsalt So if I understand the argument correctly it assumes that war, slavery and genocide didn't exist outside of Europe prior to the 17th century....