I literally started this June by posting that I’m 100% proud to be straight. A man who likes men who think they’re women is gay. A man who likes women who think they’re men is almost as delusional as the woman, and gay.
Excellent ragebait attempt, I congratulate you, if I could give you an award for ragebaiting I would
“generalizes the united states from a reported 274 transgender adult participants”
Yes, that’s… that’s how research works. No survey is going to ask all 349 million Americans if they’ve ever had suicidal thoughts and if they’re trans. On a small scale, you can much more easily make sure that the participant is indeed trans (if there were some online survey, many trans individuals would likely say “oh, I’m not trans, I was BORN this way and was assigned wrongly at birth!!! How dare they!!!”), and on a smaller scale it’s easier to fully more accurately determine whether someone has suicidal thoughts, many people wouldn’t be comfortable being honest about that on a large scale survey.
Also, 274 is no small number either. It’s in a sweet spot that maximizes the accuracy from smaller scale studies, but isn’t too small that it can’t be reasonably scaled up. Every single statistic that was found using a study that utilized sample groups is a generalization, and that’s okay, they’re still going to be more or less pretty accurate.
On top of that, reddit is NOT a source. If you’re looking for an actual study, reddit is not the place to go. The only thing you’d get from there are anecdotal accounts, which is complete survivorship bias. Oh what’s this, everyone on the trans subreddit says they’ve never commit suicide? Maybe because people who kill themselves can’t really say so on reddit from the coffin. What’s this, the majority of people on the trans subreddit say they’ve never had suicidal thoughts? Maybe because if someone permenantly mutilated their body because they were confused about who they are and feel deep regret and consider suicide from it, they’re likely not going to say so on reddit. Reddit is the worst possible source for finding out that type of information, because the only, or at least the vast majority, of the people putting information on there are the kind of people who largely fall into just one of the specific groups the research is looking for (non-suicidal), instead of an accurate distribution that reflects the real world.
And yes, it won’t change anything, because the numbers I said in my original reply were not made up.
Have a great day!
In the time it took you to comment that you could’ve done a simple google search, or ask an ai if that’s how you prefer, and found the same numbers and valid sources, but since you’d rather spend time accusing random people online with zero backup or research than spend your time actually finding out if they’re right, I’ll do it for you.
In my brief summary of each source I’ll list what it says the suicide attempt rate is, feel free to look into suicide thought reports as well, you’ll find they line up with what my original post claimed, I’ll let you do the reading yourself on that instead of just me listing it here so you can get used to what it feels like to *actually do research behind your claims* and something called reading on your own.
Here’s a study from the Williams Institute published in 2023 showing 42% of transgender adults attempted suicide, not even accounting for those under 18 who say they’re trans:
https://t.co/3l0GE8KzdZ
Here’s a PubMed one from 2017 that’s a bit broader, estimating 18-45% over many years, plus it’s a “.gov” url and I know how much liberals love it when the government does science for them:
https://t.co/yxPRh5tIvu
This one from the center of suicide prevention in 2025 says that a lifetime suicide attempt rate of 32-41% is prevalent among trans individuals and is twice as high as non-trans individuals, though it takes a bit of scrolling to get there as it mostly talks about the reasoning behind it as the article’s main focus:
https://t.co/4QKeRQI5AF
Now, the third link down in the Google page was the first website I found from that search that had contained an opposite claim, had completely drastically different numbers found nowhere else, and confirmed by nowhere else, and was the only article that didn’t cite sources following the standard APA (American Psychological Association) format, didn’t have any links to the studies it was claiming to reference at the bottom of the article, and plus it was some British gender group that made the article, which obviously would have an incentive to make up stuff that affirms what they already believe. It also completely contradicted itself, saying that the trans community has a lower suicide rate, but that the trans suicide rate was alarmingly high, which it can’t be if it’s below average, given the context and definition of average.
TLDR;
From a simple google search (what percent of trans commit suicide), of the first 4 articles, 3 confirm I am not just “making up numbers for the love of the game”, and the one that “proves” I am doing that, is contradictory, has opposing biases and incentives to begin with, and didn’t cite any studies in standard format or have any links to them at all. If you skipped just to this tldr though, I still highly recommend you read the rest of the post for more context.
Now listen, I don’t like suicide, obviously it’s a shame and sad when somebody takes their own life, I wish that you were right and that there wasn’t as much of a problem, but unfortunately that’s not the case, and ignoring or denying the high rate doesn’t solve any problems or get help to those who need it.
If you cared more about the trans community, you’d do some research to see how bad the problem is instead of ignorantly denying help to the very group that the left claims to care more about. A lack of truth doesnt build awareness around a problem that should be addressed, quite the opposite.
Have an absolutely great rest of your day! (or night, depending on when you’re reading this)
Sure, transgenders, a group in which 80% report suicidal thoughts and 40% follow through and actually commit suicide, could bully a 90s teen into killing himself. The best way they could get the bully to suicide would be to convince him to become trans like them
And on a serious note, I’m not mocking anyone for being suicidal at all. If anybody reading this is experiencing suicidal thoughts themselves, regardless of who they think they are, seek help. Somebody cares.
Thank you very much, I definitely plan on running for congress at the very least and hopefully being able to work my way up. You should consider it as well, you’re very civil and logical, I have no idea what the political landscape or form of government looks like where you are though. Thank you!
Thank you very much for the link to that. I agree that is isn’t dependent on race, it’s just that there’s a strong correlation. I don’t think race causes it at all, but what does cause it happens to apply mostly for that race. I also heavily agree on bringing back meritocracy, I think one of the biggest reasons for the slow ongoing downfall of America that started around the 60s was largely due to the end of meritocracy, primarily in schools, as you mentioned. For the most part it would appear we agree almost entirely.
Now regarding the relevance of socieoeconomic factors, tables 21-23, which I will share screenshots of, show that:
The highest earning group of Blacks ($75k+) commit more burglaries than the third-lowest group of Whites ($15k-$25k);
More forcible entries than the lowest group of Whites (<$7.5k);
As for unlawful entry without force, which is essentially non-violent trespassing, it evens out to about the same for both races with Blacks having a more extreme low and high at either end;
For attempted forcible entry, the highest earning group of Blacks (still $75k+) commit more than the second-lowest earning group of Whites ($7.5k-$15k);
The highest earning group of Blacks ($75k+) commites more theft than the second-lowest earning group of Whites ($7.5k-$15k);
The highest earning group of Blacks ($75k+) also commits more vehicle thefts than the lowest earning group of Whites (<$7.5k);
The highest earning group of Blacks ($75k+) commits the same rate for completed vehicle thefts as the lowest earning group of Whites (<$7.5k);
And finally, the highest earning group of Blacks ($75k+) has a higher rate of attempted vehicle thefts than the lowest earning group of Whites (<$7.5k).
I scrolled through all 136 pages from the link, thank you again for sharing that, and those were the only 3 tables I found directly cross comparing household income along one axis and race on the other, and I made sure to write out each one instead of just listing the most severe differences as to not cherry-pick.
Yes, socioeconomic factors play a role, as a household increases in average income the crime rate goes down, but if it were the only, or primary, reason, then we would not see the statistics that come up.
It’s not dependent on race at all, the shade of someone’s skin doesn’t determine whether or not they’re going to commit crime in the slightest, and suggesting so even slightly is ludicrous. However, the different races in America have their own distinct cultures and those are grouped primarily by race. One of those cultures is a lot worse than the other. I’m not saying the people are inherently a lot worse, and it isn’t necessarily their fault that that’s the culture they have, but that’s the strongest correlation there is between the high crime rates, it’s race. That’s the problem, not the people or their skin tone.
Unfortunately, the link you just shared isn’t working for me when I click on it. A warning page comes up saying it might be dangerous, and if I press “continue anyway” it says the link doesn’t work and bring me back to the last page.
I would still like to see a link to the research you mentioned that suggests it is directly socieoeconomic factors, and hopefully that link will work.
Now, either way, whether committing crime is more socieoeconomic or more genetic (personally I think it’s a mix of both, the welfare state of America incentivizes the destruction of the Black family and economy, and the negative outcomes of that get passed down genetically and get amplified), either way, there’s still a problem.
In general (in America, as with all the stats I bring up), Black people commit over six times as many homicides as White people. The median household income for Whites is roughly $89k, and for Blacks the median is roughly $56k, so ignoring the original stats I posted since my computer won’t let me verify your link allegedly disproving it, it would make sense on the surface for socioeconomic factors to be at play. As I’ve mentioned I think the welfare state has a lot to do with that, but not fully, since it just incentives an option that’s not as good in the long run, it isn’t forced.
Although socieoeconomic factors may explain insanely disproportionately high crime rates among Blacks, it doesn’t explain how the average Black IQ is 85, or how 94% of Blacks can’t read at a proficient level at age 18. Being on average less intelligent and performing much worse on comptency tests definitely plays a much bigger part in committing crime, as the minimum IQ required to understand the consequences and morality of crime is actually relatively high. So yes, socieoeconomic factors obviously contribute, even in the original table I posted you can clearly see that across a single race crime goes up as household income goes down, however it certainly isn’t the only contributing factor.
If the reason that, on average, the Black population of America is way more likely to commit a crime than the White population of America, then how come Black people in the highest earning socioeconomic geoup still commit over twice the amount of homocides as the lowest earning socioeconomic group of White people, and almost five times the amount of homocides as the lowest earning socioeconomic group of Asians? As displayed with the image this is using 2006 figures from the Bearua of Justice.
Now, you mentioned research that shows otherwise. I love being proved wrong, it’s a chance to learn something new and have to think harder about my stance, so if you have a link to actual research that opposes what I’ve put here, please, by all means, I’d greatly appreciate if you could share that so I could look into it more.
Also, if you were planning on calling me racist, I’d like to first say that I am not in the slightest, I have nothing against any individual person of any race or nationality solely due to that. But when we look at the averages for large groups of people, trends do emerge, and acknowledging those facts is not racist.
In the North Country of NH, the seasons go more like this:
Summer
Fall
Winter
Spring
Winter
Spring
Winter
Spring
Winter
Spring
But summer is pretty good. Last year it was on a Tuesday.
The Communist Manifesto was published in early 1848.
Donuts were invented in 1847.
This means that there was a small sweet spot in human history in which we had donuts and no communism.
Late 1848 was the best time to live.
“Kill your local commie” only works if you’re talking about actual communists, intelligent but immoral people who are actively doing things in government settings or are influencing the masses to ruin your district with communism.
Brainwashed libs who are otherwise kindhearted people but misguided by propaganda are fine. Commie villains are not.
The Dems are turning Kamikaze against ICE agents now.
Imagine trying to literally run over a police officer after refusing orders and interfering with their job and expecting nothing bad to happen to you.
Absolute madness.
Feminism destroyed America.
And I’m not only talking about this modern-day leftist “woman empowerment” garbage.
A lot of people think that in its original early days, back in the 20s and 30s, that feminism wasn’t so bad, even righteous. But I disagree.
Even when it started, it was bad and heavily contributed to the downfall of America’s golden age.
Men and women have two separate, distinct roles in society. One is not more important than the other. The woman’s job is to primarily raise the future generation, and the man’s is to build a society for that generation to live in.
The woman’s job is not to build a society. That’s not what they were made for. Being emotional beings (which is good for raising children), they’re not good at running a country.
Men and Women are equal in importance of roles, but unequal in what the roles themselves are.
Taxation is theft, period.
Taxes are not the price we pay to live in a civilized society.
The Declaration of Independence asks and answers to very simple, important questions:
What is the purpose of government,
and from where does it derive its just powers?
The answer to the first is to protect the rights and liberties of the people it governs, and the answer to the second is from the consent of those governed peoples.
Therefore, since its power comes from the people, it cannot do anything the people cannot.
And since its purpose is to protect the rights and liberties of the people, it can’t directly trample over them.
Taxation does both. The government tramples over your rights to what you own by doing something you cannot.
Imagine your neighbor comes to your door and demands, let’s say, 5% of your paycheck. If you don’t give, he’ll throw you in his basement and take away your stuff. Illegal, and rightfully so.
Now imagine that that neighbor is an IRS agent, the basement is jail, and to enforce this he has a police squad. That’s not illegal anymore, that’s just taxes.
In every single case where something is funded by taxes, a better alternative can always be found.
Whether that is privatization, donations, fundraisers, decentralization, or eliminating the thing to be funded as it is a useless waste of money.
The answer for funding something can never ethically be to steal from the general populace.
“Taxes are the price we pay for failing to build a civilized society.”
-Mark Skousen
Women should not be legally allowed to vote. Am I misogynistic? I don’t think so, and here’s why.
Women are built to be caregivers. Whether you think a greater power designed them to be that way or they evolved to be so, it is evident by simple observation. They are naturally more emotional, caring, and nurturing, because they are made to be that way as a primary parent. In contrast, men are built to be strong and logical.
The woman’s job in a self-sufficient ideal society is to raise the future generation. The man’s job is to build a society for the future generation to live in, as well as the rest of the necessary grunt work so the woman can focus on raising the children.
Both of these roles are equally important.
However, as emotionally-driven beings, compared to men, on average, they are less swayed by logic, and more easily manipulated. This is an unfortunate side-effect to being good with kids.
Not necessarily a bad thing, unless they can vote.
Nobody has a “right” to vote, this is no democracy. To claim the right to make legislature over others is to declare yourself their master.
In a Constitutional Republic, we have to choose what demographic is best suited for, on average, making the best decisions for preserving our liberties and freedom.
And women do not fit that demographic. Possessing the great gift of being able to raise children the best makes them terrible at voting well.
The 19th Amendment was a failed experiment. We let women vote, then we found out their number one issue was being able to murder their children.
I don’t think this is misogynistic because I don’t dislike women. It’s just that voting is not their place, because it heavily compromises the safety and freedom of everyone else.
Repeal the 19th. Get women out of voting booths.
It’s incredible how hard people fight for the “right” to murder their own children.
Of course, we can all agree no one has a right to murder. Quite the contradiction.
“But it isn’t murder! A fetus isn’t alive!”
I’m sure the second they find a single-cell organism on Mars too small to see, they’ll call that a life, while still denying that a living human isn’t.
A fetus has a heartbeat, can breathe, kick, and hiccup, is humanoid, and if you tested the DNA, the results would show it’s a human. On top of that, it has its own unique stand of DNA, making it a completely new and separate person.
Also, it has brain waves. It can literally think and you’re denying it’s alive.
“A woman has a right to her own body!”
And the fetus doesn’t? The fetus is inside and attached to the woman, but it’s still a separate entity. Why shouldn’t the fetus have a right to its own body?
“We should kill it if the woman can’t financially support it! You don’t want it to grow up in poverty and suffering!”
So it’s ok to kill homeless people? They’re living in the same situation. What’s the moral difference between a living adult human in poverty and a living baby human in poverty? It’s ok to kill one but not the other because it’s smaller than you?
Also, orphanages exist. You could also see if you can find a couple that your friends with who’d like to adopt directly.
On top of that, if you weren’t in a financially ok enough situation for a child, why would you create one?
Rape only accounts for less than 1% of abortion cases, so that’s not a viable excuse.
Even in the case of rape, why should the child be punished for the crimes of the rapist? What ever happened to “two wrongs don’t make a right”?
Women possess one of the greatest powers. They have the God-like ability to create new life, to generate entirely unique whole beings inside of them.
They shouldn’t abuse that ability then slaughter that life, their very own offspring.
And to those who think abortion is bad but don’t think we should have a federal ban, or that it should be up to the states, I ask you this:
How come the legality of regular murder was federally restricted, as opposed to being left up to the states? Why should the murder of smaller beings be any different?
Also here’s a meme I “stole” from the internet