Andy M

Happily married, two children, Christian, pastor, author of Justice (crime thriller), and My Stepbrother's Wedding (YA).

[Andy M @AndyWrites7]

@TheGermanicist I know you believe that, but you are not getting this idea from the Bible. You are getting it from Mormon scriptures, which are all reliant on Joseph Smith or later Mormon prophets.

[Andy M @AndyWrites7]

@StStymie You guys are slipping from the super nice guy facade with the insults and obscenities, but I appreciate the authenticity.

Let's look at the listed objections one at a time:

Did Smith teach a plurality of gods?

I'm convinced he did. Do you disagree?

[Andy M @AndyWrites7]

@TheGermanicist Why are you quoting the D&C to make points about the Bible? You don't get these teachings from the Bible itself. You have to read them into the Bible. When you accuse "creedal Christians" of just following their traditional readings, you are accusing them of doing exactly this.

[Andy M @AndyWrites7]

@TheGermanicist “I said, “You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you; nevertheless, like men you shall die, and fall like any prince.””
Psalm 82:6-7

The context makes it clear the “gods” in this psalm are nothing like the one true God. They die like mortal men, not live forever.

[Andy M @AndyWrites7]

@TheGermanicist Lets go through each of these. How does Romans 8:27 teach men become gods?

“And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.”

[Andy M @AndyWrites7]

@TheGermanicist On the car ride home, the friend who invited me explained Mormons believed they can become gods. I’d been to enough church services to know that was wildly different than what other denominations taught.

[Andy M @AndyWrites7]

@OhThats_Good @IronRodWarrior He failed the prophet test because he taught a plurality of gods and falsely predicted the building of a temple in Independence, MO.

He failed the church leader test because he took many wives, was domineering over people, and taught a different gospel.

[Andy M @AndyWrites7]

@TheGermanicist I used to be an atheist before I became a Christian. I went to a Mormon youth group event at that time while wearing a blasphemous t-shirt from a heavy metal band that said “Godlike” on the back. I was worried it would offend people. Instead, the Mormons liked it.

[Andy M @AndyWrites7]

@therealstandage @ryanswalters73 I had a born again experience during a Catholic mass when I was 19. I have objections to things like papal infallibility and marian devotion, but the RC church was the first Christian church and still has many true Christians. Mormonism believes in a different Jesus, though.

[Andy M @AndyWrites7]

@TheGermanicist I agree that your prophet should not have been murdered, preferring a proper judicial process, and for that, you call me a Satan inspired murderer. So much for the "nice" Mormon stereotype.

[Andy M @AndyWrites7]

@therealstandage @ryanswalters73 I'm glad you are going to scripture. Keep going there.

Jesus also warns about false prophets in this very chapter (verses 15-20).

I know you believe in Joseph Smith, but I'm convinced he was one of the wolves Jesus warned about because of his character and strange teachings.

[Andy M @AndyWrites7]

@LDS_Dems @3AngelsWatchman Joseph Smith and his predecessors taught a Jesus who was not eternally God, was spirit brother with Satan, and came to America. That is NOT the Jesus of history and the Bible. Mormon Jesus is no more real than the Isa of Islam.

[Andy M @AndyWrites7]

@therealstandage @ryanswalters73 How did God tell you this? Were you raised in the LDS church or did you convert later in life?

[Andy M @AndyWrites7]

@TraviXai Well, can you give us some evidence the Book of Mormon is authentic other than the claims of the author and his inner circle? Can you show any of the events in the book actually happened? We can do that with the Bible. The names and places line up recorded history.

[Andy M @AndyWrites7]

@TheGermanicist I agree he was murdered. They should have had a proper trial and left him in prison, not kill him in mob violence.