@Necr0tikk@xexqy It's even more of a reason why your example doesn't count? You're not even looking for a partner and already speculating about who you'd date and not date
@Necr0tikk@xexqy Because you really sound like "I'd date them because I see them as women, but I'm not really interested in them as my potential partners". You're not really interested in trans men, you just wanted to make a point you don't respect them, lol
@Necr0tikk@xexqy You really wouldn't, if you don't consider it as possibility, you're not really gonna date them. Straight man could as well say dating men is not in his priority. You'd actually have to include them in your dating pool if you wanted to make a point
@Necr0tikk@xexqy Trans men that have self respect won't date you in the same way. If you'd love a partner that doesn't have self respect, I'd have suspicion you'd want partner that you want to control, which is red flag
@Necr0tikk@xexqy You'd be dating male gender, and your perception of them wouldn't change that. And trans men wouldn't even date someone that sees them as women.
@amazigh_veritas I hate proshippers that want you to identify as either "proship" or "anti", like you can't even be at least neutral or outside of this ship discourse
@bluescreened800 They said they wanted AO3 "to be as inclusive as possible" in their FAQ, which means allowing nsfw rpf (that also includes underage rpf) is 100% intentional and is not going to be ever changed. You can ask AO3 volunteers about it though
@swrsvlvt Apparently, proship can also "include" people that think darkship should be censored, because they don't harass people over it.
Making proship unnecessarily inclusive will make people only defensive over being forcibly defined as proship.
@thebeanboi13@meowzingtime Nonbinary people can be men though, there are multigender and genderfluid people, they can be men. So non-men loving non-men still excludes some nonbinary people
@rtcalt@youtuberyaoi@xadxtatue Just to clarify, I'm not an anti-hara anti myself, I'm a neutralshipper and I'm pretty much comfortable interacting with proshippers. Just find it annoying that people decide for you what's your stance on ship ship discourse just because you have common sense
@rtcalt@youtuberyaoi@xadxtatue Not being into darkship โ thinking that being into darkship is unhealthy, it's literally what antis believe, so it's not contradictory to be anti-harassment anti, lol. I don't harass people that self harm, it doesn't mean I believe that self harming is ok and healthy
@rtcalt@youtuberyaoi@xadxtatue You said that they're definitionally one, but they're not. I don't think proshippers could also include people that don't find darkshipping normal, or by your own logic proshippers could include anti-harassment antis, that makes proship as its own label useless