@VittorioAmadeus@amantdelucy@Bob_Somebody021 They are literally doing exactly the demoralization you are talking about. Only they are saying "but if you accept that it's over racially we'll at least deport some of the max 20 million of them here illegally". Who is this supposed to appeal to?
@VittorioAmadeus@amantdelucy@Bob_Somebody021 That would be a fair argument if the people making it weren't also ALL making the argument that the the actual 100m immigrant problem is unsolvable.
Well not only that but nobody logs on to see what you anon (or you facefag cable news tv wannabe pundit) “position” you take whether pro or con. The only value of posting is if you have new content, info or ideas. The pretense this is some party line broadcast gallery has to go.
@seld_on If my country is going to be majority brown anyway, why exactly do I not want to bring in more for even cheaper labor and services? If political or economic reform is out of the question, why do I not want powerful political machines that I can participate in and benefit from?
@seld_on And if "civilizational revival" is not an option why exactly am I supposed to care about "illegal immigration" or "political machines"? For any educated intelligent person those just provide exactly the opportunities we'd want to live comfortably in such a society.
@aqualover420@BlackLodgeAgent@L0m3z themselves so, and that people will listen. But no one believes that the FOX anchor has an "influence" on the admin (I still need it explained how one is "influencing" the admin by AGREEING with it, but oh well.) They just occupy the same role as any soviet news anchor.
@aqualover420@BlackLodgeAgent@L0m3z Because his job is just to defend the admin. You could find equally insightful commentary on FOX News. I wasn't under the impression another FOX was need though. To hear people on FOX speak, for FOX to even exist, is simply insulting. It's insulting that people could prostitute -
@aqualover420@BlackLodgeAgent@L0m3z "Uhh... we need to like, vote and draft bills" wtf are you talking about?
The system can't even fix uncontroversially catastrophic situations like the debt!
@aqualover420@BlackLodgeAgent@L0m3z You're not going to gain anything without fixing the core issue. There's nothing more "realistic" about what Lomez suggests, except if you take the revealed meaning as we should just become controlled opposition. Unfortunately, not all us are in the same enviable position as him!
@aqualover420@BlackLodgeAgent@L0m3z Same stuff that happened with neocons under Reagan. They got close to power and immediately gave up on economic or social reform. Aggressive foreign policy was all that was left. Only, now we'll be imminently majority brown and things won't be so cushy in the think tanks!
@aqualover420@BlackLodgeAgent@L0m3z How are you any different than neocons? There is absolutely no purpose in the right if it cannot reverse this racial dynamic. And anybody who keeps taking this pro institution argument (the MOST charitable name for it) is just going to further drive young people from the right.
@seld_on Ok then you've totally given up on civilizational revival, or even protecting what's left. Why exactly would anyone side with you when all that's left in such a system is competing for corrupt sinecures? The left already offers that! Why wouldn't I just become a DSA commissar?
@seld_on Why would a smart person not even just leave for China? If they can't have a state for their own race, why not be a part of a respected minority in a real country rather than living in a favela wasteland?
@seld_on And why the hell would anyone in such a country even try to advance it civilizationally, which is a lost cause, when they can personally benefit through corruption, populism and leftism, crime, etc?