Two travelers meet on the same road, heading the same way.
One has a car and a plan to go as far as they can.
The other dreams bigger and will not settle for less than flying, even if they cannot afford the ticket.
“Hop in,” the driver says. “I can get you part of the way.”
“You are the reason I cannot fly,” the other snaps,
and slashes the tires.
Now neither of them moves.
This is a story about leftists in Democratic Party politics.
You can have that definition it doesn’t describe the complexity of genetics and human society where sex and gender has a far greater impact than than anywhere else in nature and where using laws to force a sex or gender onto someone can have irreparable harm
Hence why I have my own
@Woodywing@spikesandspokes@coolerkdawg@brad_polumbo No I stated your example is meaningless because the Y genes are attached to the X in that condition so the most accurate annotation would be:
46,XX, SRY+
It’s my definition.
Estrogen is feminizing hormone, testosterone makes features more masculine
Women who have things like facial hair it’s because of excess testosterone
But by my definition for someone to not be female they would have to fail 3 of 4 conditions and/or fail to have legal recognition
@Woodywing@spikesandspokes@coolerkdawg@brad_polumbo You keep switching between alt accounts bro and I never said production was necessary I pointed out that if development means any step then it’s a shitty definition because you have to go by the genetics of the original zygote
You are honestly this dense?
Because they are relevant but are not exclusionary by themselves
Secondary sex characteristics are literally multiple traits and that’s obvious by the use of the English language so having one inconsistency doesn’t override the others
Having E > T can be 1 of 4 Categories but T>E doesn’t exclude the other 3 of 4 and any 2 categories + legal recognition is my definition
Bipedal is not a necessary condition of human.
Your definition made gametes and the process to them A FUCKING NECESSARY CONDITION
You are just crying because your definition is flawed and your inbred brain can’t comprehend how the simplistic English language you used is at fault
My god you are actually mentally disabled,
ANY TWO CATEGORIES(meaning only two are necessary AND legally recognized in some fashion( birth certificate, etc)
So if you look at a woman through menopause compared to the 4 categories below:
1) Has XX Chromosomes
2) external genitalia that is feminine
3) Principal sex Hormone is estrogen
4) Has appropriate Secondary sex characteristics (e.g., lacks facial hair, has breast development)
They still qualify with 3 of 4 and debatably 4 of 4 because in my opinion secondary sex characteristics is an on average not single trait
@maybe_ellen@BaugherZach@brad_polumbo Are you fucking Ret@rded?
That’s why I say any 2 of 4 conditions AND legal recognition
And anything can be described as feminine or masculine characteristics ie external genitalia with feminine characteristics
@spikesandspokes@Woodywing@coolerkdawg@brad_polumbo If development is arrested then it definitionally isn’t “down a pathway to small or large gamete” because if your limiting principle is any process that would favor large or small gametes then your definition is just XX or XY of the original fertilized cell with more words
An individual that has any two below:
Has XX Chromosomes
external genitalia that is feminine
Principal sex Hormone is estrogen
Has appropriate Secondary sex characteristics (e.g., lacks facial hair, has breast development)
AND
Is legally defined as female (ie at birth, on government documentation, etc)
Agreed but we disagree on how SEX is determined.
Sex is a biological classification based on physical and physiological characteristics related to reproduction. In humans, sex is typically determined by a combination of factors, including:
Chromosomes (e.g., XX, XY, and other variations)
Reproductive anatomy (e.g., ovaries, testes, external genitalia)
Hormones (e.g., estrogen, testosterone)
Secondary sex characteristics (e.g., facial hair, breast development)
The categories female and male are the most common classifications because they correspond to the two primary reproductive roles in human reproduction. However, some individuals have innate variations in sex characteristics (often called intersex conditions) that do not fit typical definitions of male or female.
@Suspiria451@BaugherZach@brad_polumbo I think 3 genders male female and intersex would simply everything
Natural T above a threshold triggers the PED policy that’s how most intersex athletes are “discovered”
The new rule is also fine with me, my point was to allow sports leagues to decide and enforce the prerequisite rules and allow exceptions where the league determines reasonable. So if the rule is female at birth and testosterone<X then that’s rules problem not the athlete who participates within those rules.
But these arguments devolve into crybullies screaming “female is female, male is male, when the actual delineation is difficult” it requires LEGAL paperwork, medical exams AND genetic testing
A) looking and acting like a clitoris is no different than being a clitoris, and therefore the introduction for testosterone would make any tissue(clitoris or penile) grow.
B) External genitalia appearance(because no one is going to biopsy healthy genitals), with the presence or absence of gametes expressly affects gender definitions
C) she would’ve been allowed to compete if she followed the rules for testosterone suppression
And most importantly
D) I support the governing sport body for maintaining consistency in their rules and banning her like they would ban any XX person taking testosterone as a performance enhancing substance