@Corporateth@Bharatiya_Voice@JohnAntony18578 So if you’re asking “which one is fake?”:
Historians do not say “Jesus is fake”.
They also do not say “Krishna is proven historical” in the same way.
The accurate line is:
Jesus: strong consensus on a historical core.
@Corporateth@Bharatiya_Voice@JohnAntony18578 For Krishna: early inscriptions (Heliodorus, Ghosundi), coins (Agathocles), early texts (Chāndogya, Pāṇini), real Mathurā/Dwarka.
Both are inferences; Jesus’ is tighter in time, Krishna’s is older & more layere
@Corporateth@Bharatiya_Voice@JohnAntony18578 Krishna:
For Krishna, there is no comparable scholarly consensus that he existed as a specific individual.
Many scholars treat him as:
Possibly based on a historical Yādava hero/teacher whose life was heavily mythologized,
@Corporateth@Bharatiya_Voice@JohnAntony18578 Jesus:
Among historians of antiquity (Christian, Jewish, atheist, etc.), there is a strong consensus that a Jewish preacher named Jesus of Nazareth existed in the 1st century CE, was baptized by John, and was crucified under Pontius Pilate.
@Corporateth@Bharatiya_Voice@JohnAntony18578 But either of these texts , and inscriptions prove that they were worshiped, nothing like miracles , superpowers or anything like that or a birth certificate
@Corporateth@Bharatiya_Voice@JohnAntony18578 Proven fact” for ancient figures always means strong probability from texts + external references, not CCTV footage.
For Jesus: Gospels + Paul + Tacitus/Josephus.
@Corporateth@Bharatiya_Voice@JohnAntony18578 This is closer to how historians treat figures like King David, King Arthur, or Homer: not “all stories are true,” but “there is probably a real person behind the tradition.”
@Corporateth@Bharatiya_Voice@JohnAntony18578 “There was likely a historical Yādava leader/teacher named Vāsudeva-Krishna, whose life was later elaborated into the epic and Purāṇic narratives we have.”
@Corporateth@Bharatiya_Voice@JohnAntony18578 Pāṇini is already associated with references to the Pāṇḍavas and Kṛṣṇa/Yādava material, and scholarship places these traditions in the pre-Common-Era perio
@Corporateth@Bharatiya_Voice@JohnAntony18578 And Krishna isn't simply a deity who suddenly appears in medieval Hinduism.
There is evidence for a Kṛṣṇa/Vāsudeva tradition going back centuries BCE
@Corporateth@Bharatiya_Voice@JohnAntony18578 But historical existence is not normally established by finding someone's literal "birth certificate." It's reconstructed from the earliest available evidence and the convergence of sources.
@Corporateth@Bharatiya_Voice@JohnAntony18578 You're making a valid distinction, but then you're taking it too far.
I agree that a coin, inscription, temple, or the existence of Mathura/Dwarka does not independently prove that Krishna personally lived. Nobody should pretend otherwise.
@Corporateth@Bharatiya_Voice@JohnAntony18578 And you are trying to prove that he didn't exist because, this god is from the early and early centuries before the birth of your religion. Why this much hate against other religion . If you can't deliberately answer a qn and what you are doing is pulling the strings