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Calm down, Godspeed and don't forget to form phalanx

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Finally taking commissions.

Infantry only no cavalry because I still suck at drawing horses 😑

I'd be better drawing bigtits than drawing a horse.

Feel free to discuss the prices in my dms.

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@Hillebard2 ... and still be combat ready.

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But are they "militarily" fit? That's why I added it beside physically because those two coincide.

Like I've said in another post, it's one thing to be physically fit from manual labor, another to be an athlete and another a soldier.

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@Armored_76 Bruh farmers and fishermen have pretty hard manual jobs even today and I dont think being a butcher back then was too easy either.

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@Hillebard2 If they are properly trained. "If"

Try levying an army of untrained farmers, young and old, and force marching them to reach 20 miles within 5 summer hours in full hoplite panoply along with three days worth of food and personal items and see if they can satisfy the demands...

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@Hillebard2 In regards to the reenactors even if they were indeed "unfit nerds" because I don't know personally the background of each member of the Hoplitai en Galatea group. They will still fit the proper description of a levy hoplite phalanx; the untrained citizen infantry.

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@_Plac3_hold3r @L0j0762 @VeliteAquila If he's included the Macedonians then their "aspis" might do for art and artifacts or weapons. They varied in shapes and sizes.

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And I wouldn't have said that if I haven't personally seen "physically fit" men quit training because they weren't "militarily fit."

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It's one thing to be physically fit in manual labor. It's another to be one like an athlete like Pheidippides and another to be militarily fit. Combine all and you'll have a professional.

Unfortunately most of them aren't. Not every hoplite is like a Spartan or Macedonian.

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@Armored_76 Not to mention with how labour intensive many of those jobs are the people would still be quite strong even if they have a poor diet

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@_Plac3_hold3r Because they nonetheless represented the jobs they had? And I did add the text, they're just boring without the pictures.

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Interestingly enough, these so-called militarily and physically "Unfit nerds", literally fit the bulk of the recruitment pool of a 5th Century hoplite levy of most Greek City-states and therefore can determine the viability or impracticality of that theory 👇🏻

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A bunch of unfit nerds on panoplies does not determine the viability of a theory.

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@_Plac3_hold3r Yes, there you have it, a "well disciplined and 'highly trained' army" can indeed do that.

So are all hoplite armies, despite most of them being similar to a medieval militia "well disciplined and well trained"?

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@_Plac3_hold3r Figured you'd say that. You do realize almost all of Greek art is based on the art of perfectionism right, and not representative of real and actual people shapes and sizes unlike Roman art?

By that rhetoric would you assume then they are black because they're painted black?

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@JoanFrancescOl1 Found a similar helm

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If the reenactors are to be critiqued at all, its lack of observation and acknowledgement for one of the basic human behavior in the battles of Antiquity which is, as I've always said, the "notion of self-preservation" by directly charging into the spears of the enemy phalanx

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And this in itself is proven by ancient Greek sources themselves. In Xenophon's Hellenika, Jason of Pharae made a similar account of citizen hoplite armies 👇🏻

Not only that few are of the fighting age, also fewer are those who train.

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Tried drawing horses

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