@javapro0@RobertLaurie@royermattw If I keep yelling "LOW IQ" then maybe it will manifest itself!
Sorry to tell you this..... but it did manifest itself...on the day you were born.
@juvelibertarian@423chachee@RevReads289 I even tried looking up commentary that would support your views. And guess what I didn't find one. The fact is that 1 Corinthians 10 is not about communion being for the forgiveness of sins. It it's about fleeing from idolatry.
@juvelibertarian@423chachee@RevReads289 Who reject the sacrificial nature of taking communion? It is literally in the scriptures that we are to remember the Lord's sacrifice while taking it. You are the one adding to that by making it an act in which sins are forgiven.
@juvelibertarian@423chachee@RevReads289 I trust Jesus. Reading that and thinking that your sins are forgiven not from Jesus but some bread and wine. You have nothing that concrete that says that or you would have used it. You're reading into it what you want to read. Just like Catholics do with Mary.
@juvelibertarian@423chachee@RevReads289 No matter who I get any commentary on biblical meaning from it must always be supported by scripture. If it's from my pastor, it must be a supported by a scripture. If it's from a early church father, it must be supported by scripture. I use the same standard for both.
@juvelibertarian@423chachee@RevReads289 I would say yes, but only in the way upon which we do it to grow closer to God. Jew did not eat of the sacrifice as a way to forgive sins but to grow closer to God. The sacrifice was given and burnt for the forgiveness from sins. Pagans did a lot of different things.
@juvelibertarian@423chachee@RevReads289 The reason I ask is because participating in the sacrifice for those two groups is not the same. The texts implies that Jew eat a portion of the sacrificial meal to grow closer to God. And it doesn't say why the pagans sacrificed just that they did.
@juvelibertarian@423chachee@RevReads289 Yes it is..... They are metaphors. Unless you think the church is an actual loaf. And you're only participating in the fact that the sacrifice was for you. You didn't do anything to cause it. You didn't do anything to earn it. You didn't do anything to deserve it.
@juvelibertarian@423chachee@RevReads289 If you participate in communion, then you are participating in the body of Christ. That's why if you read one verse lower it gives the whole loaf analogy. We are one under the sacrifice of Christ. Now when it doesn't say is that salvation is found within communion.
@juvelibertarian@423chachee@RevReads289 Again, the resurrection adds no sacrificial element to it. The sacrifice is done. He died. Now when he got to hell and was found not guilty of any sin. Hell could not hold him.
@juvelibertarian@423chachee@RevReads289 If it were not this way then why when people asked how am I saved in Acts do the disciples say repent and be baptized? And why didn't they add the Eucharist part in there? It seems like a pretty important detail to leave out.