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@messi_bararg @No5mallf3at @FormDeterminer @abanoub1780 Why would they see anything else? They went there to see her

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@The_watcher771 @romlib_ @morallawwithin @Josh20Left I don't even think that's true. e.g evangelical faith healer Kathryn Kuhlman had a number of her miracles authenticated by doctors who signed their names to them. A lot of the remarkable healing stories that circulate online come out of Protestant churches

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@The_watcher771 @romlib_ @morallawwithin @Josh20Left Almost certainly not true. If anything healing miracles today are concentrated heavily in low church Pentecostalism in the third world

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@No5mallf3at @FormDeterminer @abanoub1780 One thing that is pretty well-established about Zeitoun is that not everybody saw it. By which I mean there were people standing next to each other, one saw the Virgin, the other didn't. In such a case how do you decide whether what's being seen is "real" or not?

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@No5mallf3at @FormDeterminer @abanoub1780 I guess I take it "seriously" insofar as I've looked into it and written on it a little bit. It depends on whether you think it's plausible that people can see stuff which isn't there. Which I think they can.

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@basedball_ @Hussainsysd @dmontetheno1 most of the phenomena associated with him (bilocation, teleportation, "odor of sanctity," mind-reading, etc.) is also broadly reported of Hindu/Buddhist holy men, including in recent times (20th century)