AssAtGames

Lawyer. Speaker. Coder. Gamer. 153 IQ

Formerly banned for truth. Anti-Fabian.

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@ReviewsPossum Also, they absolutely sold the surplus for a profit.

Capitalism has always existed, and has always driven human survival.

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@Dranseth_ @ShamashAran I totally agree, this was very bad and she is obviously woefully undertrained.

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So we agree completely. You assume the gun is loaded, and once you have done the correct steps, you stop assuming the gun is loaded and treat it (correctly) as unloaded.

If you thought our opinions ever conflicted, that's only due to your own reading, I promise.

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@Rays_Dreary @ShamashAran Sorry boss 😆

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@Rays_Dreary @ShamashAran Ok, so you do not understand my point. Makes more sense now.

My point is extremely pedantic.

Check back in when you understand it.

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@Rays_Dreary @ShamashAran Nah, I think teaching people a version of Rule 1 that they need to immediately violate by cleaning their gun is the real mistake.

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@Nancyb22000 @JohnSki91549 @spce33 @FrogNony @ShamashAran I personally suspect that no one involved cared enough to endure the minor awkwardness of correcting her, given the chamber flag meant there was no actual, or reasonably perceived, risk to anyone in the moment.

Even though it makes her look like an inept, untrained retard.

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@dardezeu @ShamashAran Totally agree.

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@ShamashAran @dardezeu And obviously, in all practical respects, we agree on every procedure that needs to be observed to render a gun safe and what actions are appropriate once that's been done.

It's just a pedantic argument about the phrasing of Rule 1.

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@ShamashAran @dardezeu I get your position.

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@ShamashAran @dardezeu I guess we have to agree to disagree on whether a person who pulls the trigger in a safe direction inside their own home is "acting like the gun is always loaded."

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Disassembly of most striker-fired weapons requires pulling the trigger.

Assuming you're not trying to fire a round into your floor/wall, yes, at some point in the disassembly process, you are treating the gun as if it is not loaded.

Also, "do not disassemble a gun while it is loaded" is absolutely a rule lmao what are you even saying at this point

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The default remedy the courts seem to go for -- a "political" remedy -- is, of course, nonsense.

In what world could the proper remedy for a rigged election system be... another, later, rigged election?

It's appalling that the courts are such cowards in this respect, and SCOTUS has not been much help. I think the correct remedy is, at minimum, a court order saying the obvious: fraud vitiates all.

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If I were always acting under the assumption that I could be "out of my mind mistaken," then I would never disassemble a gun.

Because you don't disassemble a loaded gun. And the gun could be loaded -- even though I just checked it -- because I'm out of my mind.

I'm all for redundancy, 100%. But no one actually believes the standard that you just described. That's my only point.

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@ShamashAran The Fifth Circuit runs a particularly tight ship.

It also covers an area with around 15% of the illegal population. Very nice.

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@scotus_wire This is fantastic and, given the Fifth Circuit's geographic coverage, hugely significant for deportation efforts.

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@CT_CPLE098 @ShamashAran I agree with you. People should check their guns extremely thoroughly and, only after doing that, then they can treat the gun as if it's not loaded.

Which is how every good gun owner already acts: ergo, "always" is not "always," it's "unless you've taken the correct steps."

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@thx1138_v2 @ShamashAran Did you even read what I wrote? I said it's bad and shows she's obviously completely untrained. Who are you responding to?

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@FrogNony @ShamashAran Agreed.

I also trust exactly zero "British" women in headscarves to handle a weapon with my best interests in mind, training or no.

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@ShamashAran That said, observing defense-in-depth safety, even while handling a gun with a chamber flag, is the best practice for habit-building and to put those around you at ease by broadcasting your safety level (which is a crucial, and under-taught imo, reason for safety redundancy).

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Certainly.

Although I would never disassemble a loaded weapon.

Sure, I just checked it and I'm certain it's not loaded, but tHe GuN iS AlwAyS LoaDeD so I can't begin to disassemble it, because you shouldn't disassemble a gun while it's loaded. So I check it again, and it's still clear, but I still can't disassemble it, because every gun must always be treated as if it is loaded at all times.

Obviously I'm being pedantic and silly, but that's the point. The "it's ALWAYS loaded, and ALWAYS means ALWAYS" fudd stuff really bothers me, because it's obviously not true and nobody actually acts like it is.

It hits a limit where the safety of the gun is fully, and immediately, mechanically visible, such as with a chamber flag. Or a disassembled gun. Or a locked-open, no-mag, clear-chambered gun that's right in my hand.