Talkingrock

22 | Valorant top 1500 peak | TFT top 600 Peak | LOL Emerald | Studying English with hopes to go into teaching | love reading

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GM achieved ill probably keep streaming tho

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Strongest brock 3 ever seen?

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@icarus_407 Rare Icarus banger

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@icarus_407 @spritesukie He forgot to ask if you play tft

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@icarus_407 Ye I feel that. Global makes the game feel more social and alive

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@icarus_407 Just a joke anyways. I always enjoyed g6 cause it’s the gambling global

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@RoyalSoyl u have friends to slop on tho

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@CLE_TFT Congrats man!

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@pannyandreuu im a cute little kitten

[isabel @isabisabel_]

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[Tim @TheTruexy]

Want to expand upon this discussion, since the feedback is a fair callout of what's missing in 17.3.

1. Reroll nerfs. There's a large focus on what fell out of meta and not enough on the goals here. 1-cost reroll as a consistent comp pushes the game towards being decided on 2-1, something we try to avoid. TF & Teemo nerfs were pretty heavy-handed, but from our POV a 3rd patch of 1c reroll dominance would be far worse. What we didn't execute on was 2c and 3c reroll taking their place. Things like Gnar/Akali/Miss Fortune/Diana buffs did not make an impact here.

2. The 4-costs have narrowed in on Master Yi/Corki with Aurelion Sol on the edge. In a world where 2c/3c changes landed better, this leads to a meta with a healthier balance. Add on Xayah/Morgana (who's changes landed weak) and LeBlanc (who's too conditional) and the environment is a lot closer than it seems.

3. Space Groove. This feels revisionist, but I'm not here to defend the state of SG on live. There's quite a few players that saw the changes before 17.3 and expected Space Groove to rise to S/A tier.

4. Trait Structures/Emblems. This goes back to the core structure of the trait, especially building around smaller/tighter verticals with more flexible 5 costs. To be honest, it's a little tough for us to totally address this mid-set due to fundamental design, but we'll continue to use the levers we do have access to and take the learnings for future sets.

5. Classes/Augments/Blessings. There's been a lot of content in each patch, and with set mechanic shifts, moving Morgana to a new cost, and midset trait augments. To be frank, some of these fell through the cracks while we were trying to tackle too much too quickly since we were reacting to player feedback around the set. I get that it feels like we've retracing mistakes, and this is a signal that slip-ups here cascade patch after patch, so we're taking a look at our processes to make sure that we know when to slow down and focus vs. going too broad.

6. Ok, why no B-Patch then if we agree with everything? This isn't saying the set is perfectly balanced, but moreso saying it's something we need to get right here, and we've seen the consequences of rushing changes or swinging too fast (17.1B and 17.3). There's a fair set of changes coming in 17.4 specifically targeting the problems you've mentioned that expand beyond a B-patch. Shipping a partial version only covers 1 issue by risking another.

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@sirkaptkerr Lmfao

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@Mrlegros @kura_time Simply must exclude the turbobroken patches like holowbow draven warweek etc

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@mein_tft U forgot corki riven +2 bastion and corki riven +2 meeple 10 meeple tempo

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@sirkaptkerr I went like only 6th or higher for 20 games straight and I’m up from +30-80 to +39 -45

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@lvstations I’ve got trauma from savings account into reinforcement 4-2 3 star 4 cost same turn. It’s happened to me like 5 times

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@dih_soap True

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Running it down at masters 0 tilted at 3 am is bad idea

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Finally home this set. Might grind to GM again this set not sure. Pretty addicted rn tho even tho patch sucks. shoutout @chickendonkey @jarvitz @SpethomTFT for hanging in vc.

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My elo might be fucked but I’m still addicted somehow. +34 -87 1st 8th