@John1and1@bobsopinions@sygarte You don't have to worship anything, you seem unaware of that. Jesus is a great example of 'do as I say not as I do' (or he's simply a man, not god). Plus, they're gods rules, as much as you want them to be 'just' mens rules. Unless you want to claim Moses, et al, lied?
@John1and1@bobsopinions@sygarte If you're happy with that 'just so' story then I guess it isn't an issue for you that your perfect book is happy with beating people until they're almost but not quite dead. That a girl would be sold to her rapist. Or any of the other many gross things in the bible.
@John1and1@bobsopinions@sygarte You take the parts of his teachings you like, picking those cherries like a good modern day Christian. You ignore a lot of his teachings to arrive at the fluffy Christ of modernity, which I'm thankful for.
@John1and1@bobsopinions@sygarte You said slavery was indentured servitude. This is a lie so I didn't bother with that link. Likewise you failed to say anything pertinent about slavery so I didn't bother with the second link. Apologetic lies aren't going to wiggle you out of the problems of the bible.
@John1and1@bobsopinions@sygarte The only thing I'm thankful for, relating to Christianity, is that it underwent a reformation, allowed itself to be improved by secularists, and isn't Islam.
@John1and1@bobsopinions@sygarte Here's a simple, quick and easy question to show you that you've got a secular morality rather than a biblical one: is there any situation, at all, where a girl should be sold to her rapist for any amount of money (regardless of who gets the money) and become her rapist's wife?
@John1and1@bobsopinions@sygarte good that your myopic appraisal has ascribed it. You've ignored all the disgusting and horrific sides. You've failed to answer any of the issues I've raised relating to slavery, rape, etc because you can't reconcile them with your secular morality. Which is good, at least.
@John1and1@bobsopinions@sygarte enlightenment and science to a mere shadow of its former self. You're a follower of a form of your religion that is irreconcilable with the writings of the early church and the bible.
@John1and1@bobsopinions@sygarte of your religion and so coming under the full weight of it, bring broken and crushed and killed by it, would completely disagree with it being 'an overwhelming force or good'. Frankly the Christianity you're subscribed to is the one tempered by secularism and diminished by the
@John1and1@bobsopinions@sygarte Please don't tell me what atheism is. I am an atheist. I don't worship anything. I don't need your immoral storybook characters. Reality is more than enough for me. It's sad that you would diminish and devalue it so much by desiring magic and myth to be part of it.
@John1and1@bobsopinions@sygarte Atheism isn't the basis of Marxism. Atheism is simply a rejection of theistic claims and leads to no actions or inactions. Marxism replaces worship of a diety with worship of a party or individual. Plus, it's not comparable to *everyone* minus 8. How many Marxist countries exist?
@John1and1@bobsopinions@sygarte The kill your assertion dead, so yes, Scandinavian counties should not be discounted. Which countries, specifically, are you referencing? We'll pretend your point isn't destroyed by Scandinavian countries.
@John1and1@bobsopinions@sygarte Investigate Scandinavian countries for an instant refutation of your claim.
Also, genocide. Of the entire planet leaving only 8. You *really* think you're winning a body count comparison if we take your god as actually existing?
@John1and1@bobsopinions@sygarte I don't. Obviously. Your reduction of your strawman of my position to an absurd conclusion isn't my position. What do you think will happen to my 'soul' (any evidence of the existence of such a thing?) when I die and do you think that's a good thing?
@John1and1@bobsopinions@sygarte No one sees people as accidental meat machines except psychopaths and sociopaths. The opposite of theism isn't psychopathy.
@John1and1@bobsopinions@sygarte Let's not compare body counts because while atheism doesn't mandate anything (it's only an answer on a claim) the Bible shows God mandating slaughter and committing genocide.
@John1and1@bobsopinions@sygarte You can't use the Bible to abolish salvery because it's 100% in favour of it. You can only use what you think is good, attributed incorrectly to Jesus and God, to abolish it. But you're not following the Bible when you treat people equally or abolish slavery.