I just don’t think it’s society’s responsibility though, it’s on the individual. Plenty of people do or should be able to not adopt attitudes from dramatized and exaggerated contexts like this. They should be able to tell the difference between fiction and reality.
@violetabcdefg@colyinc_PR Yeah. To wrap this up then; I’ll just say that my standards are that anime characters are heavily stylized with narrative context and considerations that can separate them from depictions of children. I personally look for mature behaviors, but am open minded toward other people.
@violetabcdefg@colyinc_PR into it’s own thing. Responses ranged from disturbing apathetic to ‘I find this repulsive’ sort of comments. I will give you that loli does have disgusting origins though. I just believe terms and their histories can change over time like ‘gay’ or ‘dyke’ has.
@violetabcdefg@colyinc_PR From what I’ve looked into, that was really only the case in the 1980s. Magazines with CSAM were legalized in Japan apparently at the time, so a bunch of magazines had a mix of CSAM and loli content in them. That was until enough fans of loli rejected it to where it split off…
a children’s clothing brand collaborating with someone who basically built their platform on being open and proud about being a lolicon is so??? is japan ok
@carcosaslostart Free speech for privately owned platforms is optional. You are relatively free from government persecution, but if a private platform doesn’t want to air what you like, you can move to another one. Doesn’t protect you from being shamed either.
@carcosaslostart AO3 acolytes were insane from what I saw, I agree with that. They were literally arguing for maintaining depictions of children based on real life purely because it was fictional. That should be socially shamed at least to distribute.
@colyinc_PR I don't have any issues with this VTuber and lolicon stuff in general but why would you mix lolicon content with REAL LIFE children's apparel? I genuinely don't understand what audience this is for... lol
I hope they cancel this
@violetabcdefg@colyinc_PR It’s also bad because lolis should not be associated with actual children. Alongside that, it will just encourage more predators to sneak into the fandom as a way to gain access to children.
@laith41212@MushroomMa46507@Yaming_delulu@Sirikamirori Also, by Episode 8, you already have major instances of character psychology on display from both Shinji and Rei, so it wouldn’t be out of the realm of possibility that something’s going on with Asuka too.
@laith41212@MushroomMa46507@Yaming_delulu@Sirikamirori It’s all more or less addressed by the last quarter of the show. A lot of it is this image of maturity and superiority that Asuka is projecting onto herself because of various coping mechanisms she has. She has abandonment issues to put it mildly.
@MushroomMa46507@laith41212@Yaming_delulu@Sirikamirori Obviously if it’s live action and not anime all potential considerations evaporate, and it is undoubtedly CSAM. I am repulsed by photorealistic styles in that sense as well because even though it’s fiction, it is undoubtedly the depiction of a child at that point.
@MushroomMa46507@laith41212@Yaming_delulu@Sirikamirori For me stylization differentiates it enough to where I can see possible reasons why someone would view a character that way outside of possibly being a pedophile. I just hold myself to higher standards. Still quite off-putting but not at the age where it affects reality…