@HivoltageCS Liquid's choke was vs LG in the columbus semis. Cologne they got blown out in the finals by SK.
But yeah I agree generally with your point that 2nd place finishes at majors are still widely remembered.
@elextures@CSGORoll Top 30 excludes all MVP events before October 2015.
500+ maps also excludes a lot of great players, 250+ maps is going to catch good players with shorter careers.
Regardless rain/dennis/edward aren't the pistol gods they're made out to be.
@default041@knav3ss Genuinely the stupidest part of their top 20 and the players who get hurt most are the all time greats who drop rankings because their bumass teammates sucked one year.
Yeah man I'm sure there were 7 players better than s1mple in 2017 or 10 players better than dev1ce in 2023.
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@default041 There's no way we're still complaining about sh1ro's k/d vs impact in 2026.
+9 RS map 1 on +3 eK-D
+.4 RS map 2 on -7 eK-D
One map with +5 eK-D and -RS and it's the end of the world.
+1 eK-D and +2.16 RS is insane impact, you'd expect him to be getting +.5 RS on +1 eK-D.
@Mauisnake Fallen had one (1) year where his KPR at MVP events started with a 7 and he played 50+ maps.
Awpers with more include:
cerq (3)
woxic (3)
allu (3)
910 (3)
degster (2)
w0nderful (2)
sunpayus (2)
torzsi (2)
syrsoN (2)
mantuu (2)
Jame (2)
mou (2)
mixwell (2)
@Gamebuster804@maxtmcc Crocodiles and alligators are part of Crocodilia. Crocodilia is an order of Archosauria, which contains the MRCA of dinosaurs (Dinosauria), pterosaurs (Pterosauria), and modern Crocodilia among other things. They're not dinosaurs at all, just their closest living relatives.
@Mauisnake flameZ and mezii both bottom 4 in resources for top 22 players.
apEX 3rd behind blitz (actually good fragger) and Jame (awp) for IGL resources.
Who is elevating who?
@_AKASOR@Thorin Yeah 29 years old is much different for riflers.
NiKo's comp is:
'25 Xantares
'24 rain
'23 jkaem/hobbit
'22 flusha/snax
'21 shox
'19 GeT_RiGhT
'17 f0rest
'16 NEO
The only other really good player there is Xantares, everyone else is mostly coasting on name value and intangibles.
@_AKASOR@Thorin 29 year old rain had already declined into support player numbers (while still playing good spots).
rain was 27 when he lifted the Cologne 2022 trophy.
@default041 If you want to keep drinking the haterade, ropz is putting up elite numbers on Nuke/Overpass but the rest of the pool is either bad numbers or heavily boosted by team success (1.14 anubis but ~75% of his kills are trades or saved teammates, 1.16 on D2 but .86 KPRW w/ <70 eADR).