The thing is, it’s not just that he’s 30. It’s that he’s 30 AND he’s a FA in three months. If he had another year or two left on his contract, sure. But he’s a rental. Indianapolis had no reason at all to hang onto him. They had zero leverage.
Look at Jurgens’ situation. The Eagles won the SB two years ago. They won their division last year. They’re hoping to be very competitive next year. They don’t have much hope for this year, but as long as a guy is under contract beyond this season, Philly wouldn’t trade him away unless they’re getting very good value. Jurgens isn’t the best, but he’s 27 and signed through the 2029 season. Especially considering how Linderbaum reset the IOL market significantly, that’s HUGE. His age, his contract situation, and the Eagles situation all increase his value.
The colts have no hope this year. They also have no hope next year. Everyone knew they were having a fire sale. Nelson is one of the top OGs in the game. But if you want him beyond this year, it’ll likely cost you 25+ a year for ages 31-34ish. He’s fantastic right now, but you’re not paying for anything beyond the next three months. His age, contract situation, and the Colts situation all lowered his trade value.
Well generally, the more you run the ball, the more you’ll fumble. So a QB whole doesn’t run at all will probably fumble fewer total times than a QB who runs more. The same goes for other stats. The more times you throw the ball, the more yards and TDs you’ll likely have. Then you have rates, which is where you look at things like, what percent of the times you run the ball results in a fumble? Or, what percent of times you throw the ball results in a TD? Or even things like, when you throw the ball, how far do you throw it? Rates are helpful when you’re looking at a bunch of different guys with different amounts of games played, rushing attempts, passing attempts. It helps boil things kind of down to an average.
You also say that teams are having less trouble catching up to him as he gets older, but I don’t know that there’s really much to support that.
He HAS been injured a lot, but it’s all been unique contact injuries. Like taking a knee to the back, getting his ankle rolled up on, getting his hand crushed. They’re not related injuries. The better protection you have as a QB, the less often you see these injuries occur. It’s why teams with poorer offensive lines generally see more QB injuries.
@Scottergate@Ryan_24O@Rosen He had the 9th lowest fumble rate of the 33. And his passing stats are at the top of the list. Partially because of his ability to run the ball
Since September 24th, 2024, against teams that made the playoffs, Lamar is:
13 Games
197/296 (66.6%)
2,803 Passing Yards
27 Passing TDs
5 INTs
120.4 Passer Rating
81 Rush Att
528 Rush Yds (6.5 / Att)
Of the 33 QBs in that span with 200+ pass attempts against playoff teams, that’s the highest passer rating by a 12.5. He’s first in TD rate, has the 9th lowest INT rate, first in passing yards per attempt (as well as intended AND completed air yards per attempt) and the second highest rushing yards per attempt.
@PatMcAfeeShow@RapSheet I think the Brissett trade might be an indicator too. There are temporary QBs the ravens could’ve gotten for much cheaper than what they paid for Brissett. I don’t think they swap a 4th out for a 5th if they’re punting on this season.
@69Gunther69@natemillssports Sure you can talk about injured players. But tweeting about a game where you gave the starting QB a season ending injury and saying that you “broke” the team is just a little weird
@69Gunther69@natemillssports There is zero chance you saw that Bengals game and thought, there’s some life in that team. The ONLY life/sliver of hope was Lamar. Which brings me back to, if that’s what this is in reference to, that’s a little bit weird
Lamar isn’t jeopardizing the Ravens playoff chances. Lamar IS the Ravens playoff chances. The key isn’t saying, Lamar is always hurt, we need someone who’s not, it’s saying, WHY does Lamar keep getting hurt? If it’s out of our control, sure, maybe consider options. But Lamar’s injuries are all pretty much contact injuries. In 2021, a defender dragged him by the heels on a sack. In 2022, his knee came on a sack, in 2025, he had a hamstring on a sack and back contusions when he took a knee to the back, this year he had a high ankle sprain on a sack when his ankle got rolled up on and a broken thumb when his hand got crushed by a defender.
When you look at all of Lamar’s injuries, the conclusion to draw isn’t “Lamar is the problem, he can’t stay healthy.” It’s that he needs better protection. When we have a bad OL, Lamar gets beat up and hurt. When we have a good OL, he wins MVP. And it’s not entirely EDC’s fault. We had three C’s go down in like, two games. And I like the Jurgens pickup. Even if he hasn’t been great so far. But going out and getting someone like Nelson also would’ve been huge. I don’t think there’s a ton we can do to fix it right now, but that should be the main focus this offseason, behind extending Lamar.