All my doctors advised lifestyle changes as a long-term solution, even if recommending short-term medical safety nets. Ignore the low-carb grifting fuckers!
@JukeBoxNonStop She has the right o like what she likes. My personal list would never include 'Panic' or 'Frankly'. And without 'William' we have nothing.
@KetoCarnivore I'm wary of being lured into a trap with your mention of calories ;) But yes. I'd alsp quibble with "far enough", only because it seems 2 imply it being quite a large number. This is why i was trying to find out what numbers in gr you were thinking of i.e to get an idea of energy
Bit of a mixed bag from Amber, here, regarding her potision of combinations of high-fat and high-carb being an issue for diabetics. She also only points to lowering carbs as a fix.
But it's so rare for a low-carber to understand that carbs are not and were never the cause
It's critical to distinguish between treatment and reverse causality. It's a fallacy to impute root cause to something that has become a proximate cause to a symptom.
For example, diabetes is a disease of inability to tolerate a diet high in both fat and carbohydrate. The diagnostic criteria include high basal blood sugar. When a diabetic stops eating carbohydrates, the diagnostic symptom goes away.
But this does not mean that they are no longer diabetic, and it absolutely does not mean that carbohydrate consumption caused the problem in the first place.
@l_krekey@splendid_pete 4/ Also, interesting tangent you stuffed in there. But just so you know, other than future versions of cell-cultured and precision-fermented animal products, there are no ways to consume them tht are not cruel.
@l_krekey@splendid_pete 3/ And while your there, please find robust human data to demonstrate the effect caused by breakfast cereals.
To be clear, I'm not advocating these dies and other additives are necessary or even desired. But that's the opposite of what you're claiming.
@Twytocrite@splendid_pete 3/ I've already credited you with enough intelligence to know your initial statement was wrong. We're human. We screw up. So either substantiate yourclaim with evidence so I can learn. Do it just to wipe my smarmy face in it, if you like.
@KetoCarnivore 2/ Being in a state where we need to call on stored reserves would seem to be what we're aiming for, and I see both the high-carb and low-carb approaches soing this. But I don't see a reason why mixed meals of hc & hf wouldn't be able to achieve the same...
@KetoCarnivore 3/ Of course, how blood-sugar rises, is sustained in that rise, and then falls is definitely influenced by macro split and total energy consumed.
@KetoCarnivore 2/ I would say that from personal experience that separating overt sources of fat and carbs to different meals leads to better subjective felt outcomes. But that could apply to anyone, not specifically diabetics.