Today’s conditions are similar in some ways to the Victorian age where a layer of society is seen by some to have criminal tendencies, and inequality as justified. This is the challenge of Liberalism to innovate because what we have isn’t working. (1/4)
@roderickgraham Demonization of incels is a real problem. It leads to discrimination of a group of people who are in fact disadvantaged in society. Comes from the focus on wealth/gender/race that people can't conceive such a group who're mostly white/male/not very poor can be disadvantaged.
@antoniogm There's one primary aim of the establishment today, and that's survival by quelling the Trumpian peasant revolt. Once that's (hopefully) successfully done, liberalism will (probably) resume and the resulting backlash will probably cause election of conservatives for a generation.
@roderickgraham I think the terms conservative and liberal don't fit today's politics any more. Some of those black conservatives would be called progressives in the past, and some people calling themselves liberals are trying to suppress free discussion of view points.
@seanilling Of course the genesis of all this was the financial crisis of 2008 where ordinary people paid the price whereas virtually no one in charge took any blame.
@nhannahjones This is shocking to be honest. There's no excuse for this, and it's incredible how he can think this is in any form acceptable. I'm with you and admire your grace in your response. Don't think it should be generalised to the "right", but can appreciate why you'd feel that way.
@NewLiberalsPod@steveplotnicki@CathyYoung63 If a post-racial society is the end goal for liberalism, then clearly id centric politics is a backward step. So how do you justify this in liberalism (as opposed to left-wing thought) in the face of clear racial inequality? One way out is reparations as a conservative policy.
@deonteleologist When you're away from the centre people on the other side look like extreme caricatures of their real selves. If you really want to understand a political discussion you need to move closer to the centre and become a liberal (ie. moderate in American lingo)
@SpoochyM @and_furiouser As in, in UK health care is something you qualify for by virtue of your medical condition, it's not something you buy (directly or indirectly) as a service. All private healthcare system even insurance works around this principle, so it's more intrusive than buying a service.
@deonteleologist This is like arguing peace is responsible for creating wars since it always precedes them. Stalin was openly/proudly a Marxist whereas fascists thought liberalism harmful and obsolete. That's a very weak argument you've got there.
this Manichean (re-)construction of American politics post-Nixon is the fault of both parties in abandoning liberalism. It's also a likely harbinger of worse to come, at least a (hopefully cold) civil war in US, with all that entails for the rest of the world.
It's not "just politics" now. We can all feel it. This isn't Right vs. Left, Republican vs. Democrat or Conservative vs. Liberal anymore.
This is now Good vs. Evil.
In November 1923, Hitler’s attempted coup failed. But no one was held accountable. Ten years later, he took over Germany.
Trump’s January 2021 coup failed. But six months later, Trump faces no consequences, and his co-conspirators are still in Congress.
@ConceptualJames A Dialectic of Enlightenment was/is necessary whether you agree with the Wokes or not. If you're not seeing this, you're missing what went wrong in 20th century.
@rg6antony @ConceptualJames None of what you've said absolves the Enlightenment from criticism about what happened in the 20th century (my original point). If you'll mention left-wing terror, why ignore the Atlantic slave trade, Holocaust, or the Irish/Indian (Malthusian) famines?