Benoit Chiquet

[Benoit Chiquet @BenoitChiquet]

@Raveline > Faut-il renoncer à convaincre autrui ?

Manifestement non 😇
Mais il faut savoir apprécier, à défaut de convaincre, d'avoir exploré des tropismes inconnus.

[Benoit Chiquet @BenoitChiquet]

@TechnoEmpress The two opening { are not on the same line ?

[Benoit Chiquet @BenoitChiquet]

@ChShersh Ah, the wonders of stringly typed programs...

[Benoit Chiquet @BenoitChiquet]

@TechnoEmpress If you don't change your profile for long enough, things should solve themselves, too.

[Benoit Chiquet @BenoitChiquet]

@dr_c0d3 @TechnoEmpress @ncraftsConf @lucasdicioccio We did plan a haskell meetup on May 18th with @TechnoEmpress as a speaker. Fortunately, I realized it was a holiday before started looking for hosts.

I *still* want to host that talk some day, maybe in June.

[Benoit Chiquet @BenoitChiquet]

@tpierrain Friend, not everything is about you.
The initial message you made was general, and I tried to show why it's not fair to make devs responsible for the situation when, of the roles you quoted, they usually have the least power.

[Benoit Chiquet @BenoitChiquet]

@tpierrain For a twitter-esque example of such bubble bursting, you can look at dhh and the turn management took at basecamp when he no longer felt comfortable with the experiment.

[Benoit Chiquet @BenoitChiquet]

@tpierrain Sure, but you can't expect people whose formative experience happened in such a system to behave as if your exception is the norm. Deconstructing that takes time.
Also remember that this kind experiment lives in a bubble, and that bubble only lives as long as it suits management.

[Benoit Chiquet @BenoitChiquet]

@tpierrain So with a structure built to expose dev activity to managers and architects and not the other way around, how could a dev know the daily routine of their higher ups? Where disagreement usually means devs are wrong, is it fair to ask the weak to show empathy for the strong?

[Benoit Chiquet @BenoitChiquet]

@tpierrain Devs report to managers, not the other way around. It is not common for managers to report to devs in a daily. Neither do architects. In most orgs, neither of these roles serve devs, they oversee. And that means the power structure favors managers and architects.

[Benoit Chiquet @BenoitChiquet]

@TechnoEmpress @lucasdicioccio @lucasdicioccio a faim !

[Benoit Chiquet @BenoitChiquet]

@malk_zameth I would say that's a googleism, they pushed the same angle for protobuf.

I assume that with a full information system built around that assumption, there are benefits.

[Benoit Chiquet @BenoitChiquet]

@christopheml @abolibibelot @Ameliliputienne Franchement, les avenues du départ/arrivée, elles ont rien pour elles. T'es même pas vraiment dehors avec les passages couverts, et tu te tapes un carrefour de la mort au bout.

[Benoit Chiquet @BenoitChiquet]

@abolibibelot @Ameliliputienne Wikipédia dit 7 ans, mais je l'ai surtout pris au début.
Maintenant, je suis vieux et je préfère faire les changements nécessaires pour prendre la 13 👴

[Benoit Chiquet @BenoitChiquet]

@abolibibelot @Ameliliputienne Je peux témoigner qu'il a bien marché, je le prenais tous les matins 😊
J'ai été très attristé de le voir partir.

[Benoit Chiquet @BenoitChiquet]

@abolibibelot @Ameliliputienne C'est pas 4/12 <-> 6/13 le soucis ?

[Benoit Chiquet @BenoitChiquet]

@Raveline Bien tenté Raveline, mais ces deux propositions ne sont pas contradictoires.

[Benoit Chiquet @BenoitChiquet]

@cyberglot I spend about half the explanation telling them that I'm about to lie to them, but for good reasons.