“For by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not a result of works, so that no one may boast.”
Ephesians 2:8-9
@BeN_10Plus God stepped into His creation becoming 100% man and 100% God.
God shed down His blood for us.
God said He would redeem us, if He didn’t redeem us with His blood, how did He redeem us?
When I was Muslim, I never asked who built the golden calf. I just knew it was a sin in the desert.
Then I read both accounts and one detail stopped me cold.
In the Bible, the man who builds the golden calf is AARON. Moses’ own brother. The first high priest. Exodus 32:4.
He gathers the gold, melts it, shapes the idol. And when Moses confronts him, he gives the weakest excuse in scripture: “I threw the gold in the fire and out came this calf.” As if it made itself.
Bro. The Bible just put the worst sin in the camp in the hands of the holiest man in the camp.
You would NEVER write that if you were protecting your prophets.
Now read the Quran. Surah 20. Aaron is cleared. Innocent. He tried to stop it. The blame goes to a mystery man called “al-Samiri.” The Samaritan. Surah 20:85.
You know what shook me? The Bible incriminates its own high priest.
The Quran writes him an alibi and invents a villain.
One reads like an honest record. The other like damage control.
And there’s a second problem with that villain. “The Samaritan.” But Samaritans didn’t exist in Moses’ time.
The city of Samaria wasn’t founded until about 500 years later, under King Omri. 1 Kings 16:24.
It’s like putting a Texan at the Last Supper.
Now, some Muslim scholars push back — they say “Samiri” means something else. I’ll be fair, that argument exists. But their own classical commentators read it as “the Samaritan” for centuries.
The defense only works by re-translating away from how the tradition always understood it.
I used to say the Bible was corrupted. But the Bible is honest enough to say the high priest built the idol.
Only a book honest about how bad we are could point me to a Savior real enough to fix it.
The Bible never flattered Aaron. It didn’t flatter me either. It just told me the truth, and handed me Jesus.
@spider7005@Cutooie Here’s another one! I promise I’m not looking for them, I’m looking for Psalms of praise to include in my prayer & keep finding these.
“Our heart rejoices in Him, because we trusted in His holy Name.”
How can you trust in His name using the quran alone if it leaves it out?
@spider7005@Cutooie Also saw this passage in my reading today- it says the Torah is perfect. So, no corruption. Look at the last verse, it says Adonai is my redeemer. To redeem, one must pay a price to ransom someone else. Can’t redeem without paying a price-
What price did God pay to redeem us?
@spider7005@Cutooie It is proof actually lol if it wasn’t preserved and it was corrupted, you would be able to prove to me the corruption of the passages I included. But you can’t. Because those passages are key to the belief of the prophets- including Moses.
@spider7005@Cutooie “The Name of Adonai is a strong tower. The righteous one runs into it and is set safely up high.” Proverbs 18:10
Why does the quran leave out the name of God which is our strong tower?
The quran has 99 names but our strong tower is not one of them
@spider7005@Cutooie It’s also contradicting what God said- if you cannot prove that God never established atonement, then that’s evidence that God did establish it. And your quran contradicts what God commanded. Why is that?
@spider7005@Cutooie Theology & historical preservation are interwoven though! The writings of the prophets are 1. Consistent with each other & the Torah and 2. Even reference each other. So in the span of those centuries, we can conclude that the message remains consistent and there’s no corruption