@sonder_crypto Trenchers dont like coins like this because it means they have to hold. And besides that they cant thrive on coins like this because they are not tied 'virality' nor are 'vampable'. Their FUD just means they dont want to loose the opportunity to bundle farm and vamp
@SolportTom You dont solve rugging and vamping by trying to make it harder for bad actors. You attack the bad actors where it hurts and beat them at their own game but done in a way that doesnt hurt normal users.
Build a similar automated tool as above that auto vamps anything from serial deployers. Have it deploy from fresh wallet each time (maybe even multiple deploys and post the right ca later, in partial, in the community). Zero dev buys, auto set up community. If possible implement some max buy per wallet and per block. Maybe even add blacklist from buying to fuck with rape streamers using their main wallet for exit liquidity pings. When something is auto deployed on Bonk you can also add some mechanism that the ticker/image combo is blocked from being deployed after.
Get this to work and you take all volume from Pump because you have set up Bonk as the launchpad that does it right for normal users.
@qatarairways Hi, I have requested a refund for a flight that is in two days, but it has not been proccesed yet and I am still receiving flight updates that the date changed. What can be done here? Can you confirm that I will get my refund before the flight takes place?
Unorthodox method, but we know serial deployers have zero good intentions. So why not have an automatic 'official' vamp for whatever these serial deployers launch. Have it be so that every 'official' vamp gets deployed from a fresh wallet to prevent sniping. Then ideally add something that prevents multi walleting and buying more then x% with one wallet
@spacexbt Good point, bear market is what spawns the new next thing. BSC shitcoins died due to complacency and extraction. NFTs replaced it and died due complacency and extraction. Memecoins will die due to the same and be replaced with something else.
As a rough thought experiment, I'm sure these numbers will be slightly off math wise.
But if we take 0.93% of every TXN going to pump.
Across 100k in volume pump takes 930 USD out of the space and into their pocket.
Across that same 100k usd, bags will take 62 USD.
Extrapolate this across both time / total volume and the sheer money that will remain in the hands of trenchers is going to be absolutely critical across the next few months.
I thought about staying quiet. Then I read the comments and realized I can't.
And before anyone says it, yes, I know the reply is coming: "stop watching what other men do and lock in."
Save it. This isn't about one person's bag. It's about what happens to all of us when this becomes normal.
Bundling a coin at 6k MC and farming aura from it isn't alpha. It's free-riding and it's slowly killing the trenches for everyone.
Here's why:
1/ Bundling works BECAUSE most people play fair. You're not beating the market, you're exploiting the trust of people who don't.
The moment everyone does this, there is no trade. Just a room full of people trying to rob each other.
2/ This is a tragedy of the commons in real time.
One person bundles → profits. Fifty people bundle → the chain is a minefield. Nobody buys anything at 6k MC anymore because they've been burned too many times.
Your short-term win is everyone's long-term loss — including yours eventually.
3/ The aura farming part is what really gets me.
You don't just take the money, you then post it as if it's skill. As if buying 30% of supply at launch and dumping on retail is a flex worth teaching.
What exactly are you modeling for the people watching?
4/ "I only put in 10 SOL" — cool. But you held ~30% of a 6k MC coin. The size of your bag isn't the issue. The structural advantage you gave yourself at everyone else's expense is.
There's a difference between being early and being predatory.
5/ The trenches CAN be a positive sum game. New coins, genuine price discovery, people actually making life-changing money on real calls.
But that only works if enough participants play it straight.
Every bundler erodes that a little more. And then they post +$40k like they did something.
Some people will call this hating. It's not. It's just pointing out that short-term greed compounds into long-term damage for everyone, including the people doing it.
Every bundler that goes unchallenged normalizes it a little more.
What do you think, are we at a point where calling this out still matters, or is it already too late?
@satsdats How about a mechanism that holds the fees until some x marketcap is reached and sustained for x amount of time. In case the threshold is not reached, the fees get send to the holders of the coin, who took on the risk.
@mst1287 Filter out multiple walleters and with minimum holding time you create an environment where people who hold can compete. Raises the ceiling of tokens as well
@mellometrics Change the comp rules to rule out multi-walleters and sub hour hold time wallets. Split the rewards and give random prizes to people who hold stuff. Fully signalling that Bonk/USD1 is not for farmers
Some easy to implement fixes to make this competition 10 times better:
1. Get the multi-wallet data from Axiom, anyone using more than 1 wallet = ineligible
2. Avg. Hold time of less than 1 hour = ineligible
3. 4. Create some metric that's not just pure $ Pnl, but also % and hold time.
Split rewards, and part of it goes into a draw towards random holders.
5. Have Axiom remove 1 second chart for Bonk coins, 1 minute chart minimum.
This helps create an environment where Bonk coins are safe to hold for longer. More people hold longer, coins go higher, coins go higher, more people come. Distinguish Bonk from Pump by setting the stage, it's the place to HODL coins while Pump is for 5-second hold time deployers and farmers