@Myltzi Oh my god. This is the best thing ever. All the details! I’m dying over the kid’s drawing of Chris’ arms! And Queen being Rose’s recital?! I love it so much.
@TIANHAI_03 You hit the nail on the head. Leon’s ‘weaknesses’ are what make him human. It’s why he’s so beloved a character. He’s not perfect, he’s not one note. That would be boring and just wouldn’t ring true with any audience.
@TIANHAI_03 Yap away! I love them too and Vendetta is definitely my favourite. I keep meaning to read the translated novel.
People make fun of him drinking?! The immaturity of fandoms spaces sometimes…
I guess people are used to Leon being this unstoppable, unyielding force-
@TIANHAI_03 Wanted to come back and say how good a take this honestly is. I hadn’t made the Vendetta connection. The ever present survivor’s guilt mixed in with losing his squad reminding him of his family tragedy, no wonder he went off the deep end.
@TIANHAI_03 I’ve always pictured he was adopted by the cop that saved him, and he was Irish, Stereotypical perhaps, but with the breadcrumbs we’ve been given, it makes sense.
@leon1977kennedy We know he’s Italian American, right? Crime family, maybe mafia? 100% Roman Catholic. But that surname is 100% Irish. I’ve h/c’d for a while now that he was taken in by the cop that saved him, who’s Irish American that’s where the surname came from. The religion carried through.
@StagecoachMids might want to check in on the driver of the 16:10 on Woodway Lane. Trapped me in the doors as I was waiting to tap my Swift card. Ignored me when I asked if he hadn’t seen me. He then did the same thing to another passenger at the next stop. A child!
@disturbiaco seems to be a problem with the app when removing items from the favourites list. Once removed, it jumps about 10 items into your favourites list, then you have to scroll back to where you were. (I know I have a lot in my favourites, but that’s your fault really 😂)
@bellyangeldolly@endidotexe THANK YOU. Why is no one else saying this?! Lucifer’s jacket and shirt needs to be on Alastor, that’s the only way to improve it. The choker needs to go. It’s horrendous and absolutely the worst part.
@simius_raz right?! I NEED that short. Elegantly wielding that dainty little paintbrush, self satisfied smug-ass grins on their faces until they each clock that they’ve had the same idea, and the artistic abuse escalates until they’re glowering and snarling at one another across the table.
@StagecoachMids#coventry #51 15:10 from Woodway Lane to Arena Park. Where is it, please? Been waiting since 15:00. App said due at 15:18 then 15:21, then disappeared.
The current "why do straight women engage with m/m relationships in media if not for fetishism?" conversation is so interesting to me because unless you have no reference to standard heterosexual relationships, at least one potential answer should be obvious.
Sociological and psychological research, medical studies, relationship satisfaction stats, and even antcedotal reports and narratives, show that the emotional burden of heterosexual relationships is largely put on the woman.
There is a gendered entitlement to care - men should receive it, women should provide it, with far less expectation of reciprocity.
Having a relationship between two people of the same gender removes this specific issue.
Why fictional m/m media, opposed to sapphic media, that could be argued to remove the same inherent gender imbalance?
Straight women, by definition, are attracted to men.
When a straight woman consumes heterosexual media the implicit expectation and interpretation is that she is attracted to the male protagonist, and is meant to live vicariously through the female protagonist. No one questions this. No one calls this 'fetishism'. No one suggests this is a moral failing. In fact, the underlying implication of this entire discussion rests on straight women being expected to only consume heterosexual media, not that they shouldn't consume any.
Fictional m/m narratives, such as the ones this conversation has been largely centred on, offer love interests of the gender that straight women are attracted to, without the burden of societal expectations and power dynamics that come with a heterosexual relationship. They want to consume romance without the burden of expected subordination due to their gender.
Of course there are many reasons women engage with m/m media, however from conversations I've had with straight women, this seems to be one of the most prevalent reasons.
I do also think it is a conversation that should remain open. There are circumstances where gay relationships are fetishised.
We, as an audience, shouldn't flatten gay mens voices or experiences.
However, I'd argue rather than only asking, "why are women obsessed with m/m relationships in media?" we should start with, "why are women disengaging with heterosexual relationships and what does that say about society?"