@BigRed_12334 your just redefining the same symbol to fit your view. it's the same ancient motif in both traditions and calling it 'pagan' or 'political' only for catholics is just dishonest history
im done talking, God bless
@BigRed_12334 your running away from the statement. calling it "naivety" for them and "heresy" for others is just a double standard. it’s the same old pattern in both, not a political symbol
@BigRed_12334 thats a total double standard, if it’s just a cultural symbol for the Orthodox, it’s the same for Catholics. You can’t have it both ways.
@BigRed_12334 in fact, in 13th century Germany the forked cross was a Christian symbol of the Tree of Life. It is not a rune, it is uniquely Western, not pagan.