@jacknolan__ so likewise a haulier who went out on his own is still a worker
Ireland achieved peasant proprietorship of land in the 1800s since then our farms are owned by ordinary workers (the majority of which need 2dn jobs to survive)
@jacknolan__ well yes, the idea that a self employed trades person on a site alongside a directly employed one both doing the same job for the same rate are in different economic classes is daft
@Annie_deBhal@SiobhanCon73085 it kinda suggests you're not overly familiar with the economics of Irish agriculture. 60 acres was a big farm in the 1950s its not now.
Like theres a reason PBP and sinn fein the main left parties are supporting them
@Annie_deBhal by your logic self employed trades people aren't working class. thats just not how it works
farmers own our land but were still not bourgeoise, marxists never dismissed peasants the way you are
hauliers and hire men own the tools of the trade, its like owning a hammer
@EO_Halloran i dunno seems to me they're just annoyed by the reality of their fuel bills going up massively and the fact it'd be impossible for them to up their prices to cover the difference, more than anything they saw online
@gunnerineirinn@leebonnie2707 objectively false the protest is actually mostly ag hire men, who do all the big jobs for multiple farmers because its not economically viable for a farm to have massivly expensive equipment they only need once a year.
@GarethNotGarth@ThomNolan tax cuts for massive corporations, letting US imperialist use Shannon airport, letting corporate landlords control the rental market. just to name a few