Your Everyday Non-Physicalist Atheist(?)

Was a physicalist, then one day wasn't a physicalist. Now I think nothing is *really* physical. It's just experiences all the way down.

Could be wrong though.

[Your Everyday Non-Physicalist Atheist(?) @BugRib]

@jetpen @TOEwithCurt Super interesting thoughts!

I have no idea if this is true, or significantly likely to be true, but it kinda sorta makes sense to me! 👍🙂

[Your Everyday Non-Physicalist Atheist(?) @BugRib]

@Soren44_ @mtracey @elonmusk Evidence?

Not that I’d be terribly surprised.

[Your Everyday Non-Physicalist Atheist(?) @BugRib]

@Franzelianism It’s extremely flawed, but there’s so much I like about it.

Hot take: I think it’s the best of the Star Wars prequels. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Your Everyday Non-Physicalist Atheist(?) @BugRib]

@ColinMangan_TGC @tomwelcomeclark @Disagreeable_I @shamthebot @Philip_Goff @seanmcarroll How is the zombie argument begging the question”?

It seems to me that it’s just pointing out something incredibly obvious. Maybe one of the most obvious things ever… 🤔

[Your Everyday Non-Physicalist Atheist(?) @BugRib]

@ColinMangan_TGC @tomwelcomeclark @Disagreeable_I @shamthebot @Philip_Goff @seanmcarroll Isn’t the zombie argument simply pointing out that brain/body-like arrangement of particles do not logically entail conscious experience?

No one has even come close to demonstrating that it does. I’ve never heard an argument that even *begins* to demonstrate that it does. IMHO.

[Your Everyday Non-Physicalist Atheist(?) @BugRib]

@tomwelcomeclark @Disagreeable_I @shamthebot @Philip_Goff @seanmcarroll Unless “brain-like” arrangements/processes of particles does not, in-and-of-itself, logically entail conscious experience…

[Your Everyday Non-Physicalist Atheist(?) @BugRib]

@ColinMangan_TGC @gniksAtsuJmi @Disagreeable_I @tomwelcomeclark @shamthebot @Philip_Goff @seanmcarroll I mean…there’s nothing “it’s like” to be a non-conscious thing. Right? 🤔

[Your Everyday Non-Physicalist Atheist(?) @BugRib]

@mermdodson @CalltoActivism This is completely false.

Where did you pick up this misinformation?

[Your Everyday Non-Physicalist Atheist(?) @BugRib]

@ian_wardell @morallawwithin Exactly.

This is why illusionists/eliminativists exist.

Actually, I give these illu/elim folks a bit of credit for realizing that this is the only “tenable” (haha) position if one wants to consider themselves materialists/physicalists.

[Your Everyday Non-Physicalist Atheist(?) @BugRib]

@ancoul @morallawwithin What, in purely physical(ist) terms, is the experienced redness of red, or literally any other conscious experience?

What arrangement/behavior of matter literally *just is* the experience of pain?

Good luck with that.

[Your Everyday Non-Physicalist Atheist(?) @BugRib]

@morallawwithin They redefine “mind” or “consciousness” to mean “behavior”.

[Your Everyday Non-Physicalist Atheist(?) @BugRib]

@LuvToLuce It’s a crime against humanity.

[Your Everyday Non-Physicalist Atheist(?) @BugRib]

In sum, societal parasites who get rich off of these companies, who could still be millionaires, even if they were to forgo 90% of their income, can go fuck themselves.

I’ll never pay, until the corporate thugs come into my dwelling and scrape the profits from my cold dead body.

[Your Everyday Non-Physicalist Atheist(?) @BugRib]

I say, any for-profit ambulance service (regardless of whether they’re considered non-profit on paper, regardless of the various executives of the company paying themselves several million per year), they can go f**k themselves.

It’s always “worked” for me before. Why start now?

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@PhilosophyBayou @No5mallf3at @PAHoyeck I’m incredibly familiar with this term, but at the moment, I have no idea what it actually means.

Please help! 🙏

[Your Everyday Non-Physicalist Atheist(?) @BugRib]

@No5mallf3at @PhilosophyBayou @PAHoyeck What if you’re committing a fallacy RIGHT NOW?!! And you don’t even know it?!!

What if I’m committing a fallacy just by discussing fallacies?!! 😱

[Your Everyday Non-Physicalist Atheist(?) @BugRib]

@PAHoyeck …Although I have no idea what *your* thoughts on this are, so you might totally disagree with me on this, haha.

[Your Everyday Non-Physicalist Atheist(?) @BugRib]

@PAHoyeck They openly acknowledge that they believe phenomenal consciousness doesn’t exist, but they deny that they deny consciousness itself.

But WTF is non-phenomenal consciousness even supposed to be?

Seems completely and utterly incoherent…IMHO.

[Your Everyday Non-Physicalist Atheist(?) @BugRib]

@dwarkesh_sp Not to be pedantic, but should the internet be considered a “place”? 🤔

I actually think this is a really interesting question, but I guess it’s probably more about language than ontology/metaphysics—like many other philosophical issues, haha.