Witter Case

Peer Support Specialist, Veteran, prior medic and first responder

[Trevor Tomesh ☕ @realDrTT]

Okay, so here's the thing. If you're going to say that LDS worships a different Jesus, then you're going to have to explain how there were two Jesus' born in Bethlehem, ministered with the same exact words, were both crucified and died, were both raised from the dead. That, or you have to admit, that we have a different understanding of the same person.

[Dan McClellan @maklelan]

Lol, no. The Trinity didn’t exist for the first several generations of Christians & wouldn’t become a central credence of Christianity for several more, but what Erick lacks in knowledge & critical thought he more than makes up for in dogmatism & insufferability.

[Witter Case @CaseWitter]

@JDStokes79 @DavidAFrench I was never taught that any of our scriptures supersedes the Bible. If anything I spent more time studying the Bible formally at church. And seeing how our individual perceptions of this are worlds apart do we want the government deciding this one.

[Deseret Catholic @CatholicInUtah]

When Protestants interact with LDS they be like:

“You are not Christian unless you accept the definition of God not explicitly stated in the Bible that came from a 300 year debate that was authoritatively settled by Catholic Bishops.”

LDS: “So you’re Catholic?”

Prot: “No. The Catholic Church is the church of the devil and the Pope is the antichrist. But you must accept the Catholic definition of God to be Christian.”

[Coronado Islander Seminary @CHS_Seminary]

The DoD controversy reminds me of the response after a Latter-day Saint congregation in Michigan was attacked.

When Pres Trump described it as an attack on a Christian church, many people’s first reaction wasn’t sympathy—it was, “Well awkshaully, they’re not Christian.”

That’s the same impulse at work here.

You may agree with the government’s theological distinction today because it favors your tradition. But do you really want a secular bureaucracy deciding which churches are authentically Christian?

Latter-day Saints and other Christians have real doctrinal disagreements. We acknowledge them.

What concerns me is watching believers cheer while the state draws religious boundaries. History suggests that never ends where people think it will.

We’re stronger defending each other’s right to worship than acting as theological hall monitors.

#saintsonx #ldsx @Ch_JesusChrist

[Antisocialmedia @PrideCausesBias]

The whole LDS are or aren't Christians can be simplified like this.

All toast is bread but not all bread is toast.

All Trinitarians are Christians but not all Christians are Trinitarians.

The exclusive Trinitarians like to say - you can't be Christian if you aren't a trinitarian - they like to add their own qualifiers to the term to be exclusive.

Go ask anyone to define what a Christian is and I guarantee they won't say :

A Christian is someone that believes that God is one divine essence (ousia) existing in three distinct, co-equal, co-eternal persons (hypostases) — Father, Son, and Spirit — united in substance but distinct in their relations of origin, rejecting both modalism (one person, three masks) and subordinationism (a divine hierarchy).

99.9 % of the world will say :

a Christian is someone who believes that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, that he died for their sins, and rose from the dead — and who tries to follow his teachings.

While trinitarians make up the majority of the Christian population it is disingenuous of them to apply their extra-biblical definition to the term suggesting we don't worship the same Jesus.

We worship Jesus Christ who died for our sins and is one with God and was and is eternal. We are Christians - just not Trinitarian Christians.

[Witter Case @CaseWitter]

@frgtr46052602 @DavidAFrench I know. I served. As a member of the Church.

[Dr Manhattva @Manhattva]

I think it’s pretty clear that the religious right hates The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints more than the Left does.

I wonder how far they want to take this thing against us.

It’s making me reevaluate a whole lot of things.

[Witter Case @CaseWitter]

@aprilajoyr It's important to remember it's part of a pattern of actions increasing Christian Nationalism in the DoD.

[Witter Case @CaseWitter]

@SMickey65012 @aprilajoyr Not all of us did and we are sick of paying the price for his actions. That said I sadly see the humor.

[April Ajoy @aprilajoyr]

Listen, it's fine if you, as an individual, don't think Mormons are Christian. Or if you don't think Catholics are Christians. Or Protestants. But the GOVERNMENT should not be deciding who is and isn't Christian and THAT is the problem with what the Pentagon did.

[Witter Case @CaseWitter]

What makes the removal of religious codes, othering of religions, and the removal of designations is that this wasn't an isolated incident but part of a pattern of concerning behavior by Pete Hegseth and his department. Let's focus on that.

[Witter Case @CaseWitter]

@kylebeshears Thank you for providing that context. It's also important to note it's not just about my faith right. And these actions are part of patterns. Like the classifying of several religious views to others. Overly proselytizing of officers. Etc.

[David French @DavidAFrench]

The issue with the Pentagon list excluding the LDS church from Christianity has nothing to do with theology and everything to do with the Establishment Clause.

I've spent my whole life around Christians who draw different lines around the faith. It's a 2,000 year-old argument that will continue for another 2,000 years or until Christ comes again. But that's a church argument, and it's none of the state's business.

[Witter Case @CaseWitter]

@drrjpeterson @StallionCornell When it's the style of the Strangites it's more humorous than harmful.

[Mike Levin @MikeLevin]

This is really stupid, and it’s not getting enough attention.

The Trump administration is pulling a working $368 million ocean monitoring system out of the water, equipment taxpayers already bought, built, and sank into the deep ocean.

And they are doing it right when the oceans are behaving in ways that alarm the scientists who study them.

Record-breaking temperatures.

A system of Atlantic currents that may be lurching toward collapse.

The response?

Yank out the instruments and walk away.

That is not budgeting. That is smashing the gauges while the engine is on fire and calling it efficiency.

For what? The Trump administration dressed it up as a “nimbler approach” and “smart lifecycle management,” which is fancy nonsense for “we shut it off and hoped nobody would ask why.” There is no return-on-investment analysis. They cannot show taxpayers save a dime, because the gear is already paid for and the science it produces protects real money and real lives.

The kicker: the same people killing the monitors want to mine the deep sea for minerals. So they are destroying the only tools that could measure what that mining does. That is not an accident.

That is the point. You cannot see the damage if you break the instruments first.
https://t.co/MzE4AW1QBv

[Witter Case @CaseWitter]

@drrjpeterson @StallionCornell Spelled it wrong and it's an umbrella category.

[The Calvin Coolidge Project @TheCalvinCooli1]

🚨Report: The Department of War has officially slashed its list of recognized military religious faiths from 211 to 31, removing approximately 180 belief systems.

The eliminated designations include atheism, paganism, Wicca, humanism, and Unitarian Universalism.

[Mark Johns 🇺🇸 🚛 @MarkJohnsEsq]

@henryolsenEPPC Many of the same people saying Mormons are not Christian say the same thing about Roman Catholics. While we have profound doctrinal differences, I consider member of the LDS Church to be my brothers and sisters in Christ.