@nicoraytruth@TheLocalWisdom@HansenWJason One of the covenants we make in the temple is the law of consecration: to give everything we have (time, talents, money) to God and His kingdom. If you're not ready to give 10%, you aren't ready to give 100%.
@PinehavenGuy@VVenerabilis Everyone who is faithful in their testimony of Jesus Christ will one day become a father, if not in this life, then in the next.
@VVenerabilis@1000HolyPlaces Same here. I just don't think the treat after sacrament meeting is very important now that I'm actually a father, and would rather use it as a fellowshiping outreach to future fathers.
@1000HolyPlaces@VVenerabilis That fatherhood is amazing. I want them to want to sacrifice for their family, because that's where the best joys of life come from.
@1000HolyPlaces@VVenerabilis I would 100% rather my 13yr old boys be included in the "fraternity of fathers" by giving them a kitkat with a message that says "you deserve a break" than be exclusively honored by being given that same kitkat. I don't care about being special. I just want my sons to see /1
@Sprite_z0@jkimballcook Only if you believe that the refusal to actively affirm another's beliefs is implicit condemnation. They could have chosen Leviticus 18 or Romans 1.
@PapistPilled The LDS analog would be that y'all used to be the Pats, but the team leadership decided to start playing rugby, so coach Vrabel had to reform the team.
@KeelingBobby@tallsnail We are condemned to hell according to your beliefs. I just don't think that God condemns people to hell for not understanding His nature. That seems like injustice to me, especially when the Athanasian creed explicitly states that God is incomprehensible.
@KeelingBobby@tallsnail We participate in communion, we follow what Jesus taught in the bible. We also believe that Jesus is Jehovah, the God of the Old testament, that He is eternal, that He created the earth. What we don't agree on is that He is the same being as the Father. That's it, and for that /2
@KeelingBobby@tallsnail Although, thinking more about it, mutually exclusive seems extreme. Many of our beliefs overlap substantially. Some of our beliefs are mutually exclusive.
@KeelingBobby@tallsnail Yes, however, I don't believe that misunderstanding of the nature of God is a sin, nor do I think it will keep someone out of heaven. Orthopraxy > Orthodoxy. Matthew 7:21 comes to mind.
@KeelingBobby@tallsnail Trinitarian notions of God, don't fit the God of the Old and New Testaments. God feels sorrow when we sin. He feels joy when we repent. Jesus's will is different from that of His Father, but He chooses to do the will of the Father because He loves us and He loves Him.
@KeelingBobby@tallsnail No, which is why I reject the idea that God is impassible and incomprehensible. It's why I reject the idea of the hypostatic union in that it says that Jesus, as God, did not suffer, and only suffered in his human nature. The Greek ideas that are at the foundation of the /1
@tallsnail Saying we aren't Christian implies that we don't believe in Jesus Christ as our Savior and Redeemer. We know we have a different view of what God is. We know that we disagree about the history of Christianity, but we love Jesus, and hate the implication that we don't.