Cathy U’Ren

Professional puppy cuddler. Amateur adventurer. Serial optimist. Closet activist. Just trying to be a good human, but “way too intense” most of the time🐾👣☀️🧡

[Cathy U’Ren @CathMayorMayNot]

@GlennontheGC @LittleDrumJude One of the world’s best people. Happy Birthday Jude! 🙌🙌🙌

[Cathy U’Ren @CathMayorMayNot]

@sbxr Judging by the desperate volume of anti-Voice tweets from you, I beg to differ …. 🤷‍♀️

[Cathy U’Ren @CathMayorMayNot]

Ok. How about from the Shadow Indigenous Affairs Minister who spent over a decade working on the Voice on behalf of the LNP and then quit in disgust when Dutton declared for NO?
He knows more about the process and the politics than most. How bout him?

https://t.co/D6qw5FQVVD

[Steve Baxter (Winston Smith - let's not go there) @sbxr]

If you are taking your advice on whether we should vote for constitutional race privilege from a rugby league player, or being urged to listen to such advice, be really careful who you trust to listen to.

[Wil Stracke @WilStracke]

Where have we heard those arguments before? 🤔 #yes23 #Yes23au #voteyes #UnionsforYes

[Cathy U’Ren @CathMayorMayNot]

@sbxr @Fobic10 @complex_maths Goodness me you are desperate to be right aren’t you? No matter how ludicrous your point!

[Cathy U’Ren @CathMayorMayNot]

@sbxr @Fobic10 @complex_maths Haha! Getting desperate for a gotcha here Steve.
It was from the Parliament of Australia website where information on Senate Committees (which you raised as a comparison) is found.

[Cathy U’Ren @CathMayorMayNot]

@sbxr @complex_maths @Fobic10 The High Court is ultimately used to remedy any legislative conflict. So?
Any law or line of the Constitution can be put before the High Court for a ruling when parties disagree on its meaning or application.
That is completely standard.
Why is it somehow scary here?

[Cathy U’Ren @CathMayorMayNot]

@sbxr @Fobic10 @complex_maths Excellent point Steve! These powers are enabled by the Constitution and then defined and agreed upon by Act of Parliament, just like the detail of the Voice will be 👍

[Cathy U’Ren @CathMayorMayNot]

@Fobic10 @sbxr @complex_maths The Constitutional Amendment states what it can do. Here you go:-

[Cathy U’Ren @CathMayorMayNot]

@Fobic10 @sbxr @complex_maths I completely agree. Steve compared it to a Senate Committee so I was commenting on that …

[Cathy U’Ren @CathMayorMayNot]

@sbxr @complex_maths @Fobic10 This might help Steve.

https://t.co/9aasV4Czb6

[Cathy U’Ren @CathMayorMayNot]

@sbxr @Fobic10 @complex_maths The Voice doesn’t have any of these powers 👇

[Cathy U’Ren @CathMayorMayNot]

@sbxr @Fobic10 @complex_maths LOL. Every member of a Senate Committee can draft a Bill to put before Parliament to actually make a law Steve. That’s a shed load more power than making representations.
Seems you’re trying really hard to make something very simple sound sinister. It’s just not.

[Cathy U’Ren @CathMayorMayNot]

@sbxr @complex_maths @Fobic10 Parliament *will* limit how in accordance with 29.3

“the Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to matters relating to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, including its composition, functions, powers and procedures.”

[Cathy U’Ren @CathMayorMayNot]

@sbxr @Fobic10 @complex_maths No. It cannot modify the fact that the body can make representations. That’s the point Steve. The Parliament CAN modify the composition of the Voice, who is on it and how they get there. The Parliament controls all of the detail.

[Cathy U’Ren @CathMayorMayNot]

@FarCoughCunce @sbxr @complex_maths There is a lot of detail about how it *might* work but the actual detail is to be decided by Parliament. There’s no sneaking. We’re simply being asked to vote on whether the body can exist or not.

[Cathy U’Ren @CathMayorMayNot]

@Fobic10 @sbxr @complex_maths But it’s the Parliament that gets to decide who is on it and how they get there. The Parliament can change that at any time. We’re just voting on whether it gets to exist or not.

[Cathy U’Ren @CathMayorMayNot]

@sbxr @complex_maths Bit of a stretch there Steve. Members of Parliament have the right to introduce Bills which actually make laws in the country.
The Voice has the right to make representations.
The whole point of that is that it can’t be legislated away.
It’s not scary.

[Cathy U’Ren @CathMayorMayNot]

@sbxr Here they are Steve. (One guy didn’t fit in the snip, but yes he’s white too).

[Cathy U’Ren @CathMayorMayNot]

Utterly disingenuous.

Those wanting the Voice want a demonstrably marginalised people to have a say in how they are treated.

So that in the future, there is at least a chance that the “content of their character” might be the only thing they are indeed judged by.

[Steve Baxter (Winston Smith - let's not go there) @sbxr]

Those wanting this voice really have reasoned, somehow, that they are happy to judge by the 'colour of skin' and not 'content if character' as per those immortal words.

How badly broken does your world view have to be to look down at ATSI people in that way!

[Cathy U’Ren @CathMayorMayNot]

@sbxr Intentionally missing the point obsessing about a technicality here Steve. There is no “racism” against ATSI peoples to point at. There didn’t need to be. It wasn’t written for them. What makes you so angry when I point out that it was written by white men for their benefit?