Van

Formly Roman Catholic. Currently navigating Protestantism

[Van @Clopclopblop]

@Goofy_Mew2rator @JackStone8814 @smashbaals I adhere to everything said in the Bible. I'm just not stupid.

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@Goofy_Mew2rator @JackStone8814 @smashbaals > Thinks the Deciver makes sense

> Was deceived out of salvation

Many such cases

[Van @Clopclopblop]

@Goofy_Mew2rator @JackStone8814 @smashbaals > isn't Christian

>thinks the great Deciver who deceives away from God is senisble

Many such cases.

[Van @Clopclopblop]

@JackStone8814 @Goofy_Mew2rator @smashbaals Your picture even says this by the way lmao

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@JackStone8814 @Goofy_Mew2rator @smashbaals Multiple*

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@Goofy_Mew2rator @JackStone8814 @smashbaals To clarify: lucifer commits evil. Beings are not ontologically evil

[Van @Clopclopblop]

@Goofy_Mew2rator @JackStone8814 @smashbaals Then God is good and lucifer evil and can only ever lead you to dammnation.

[Van @Clopclopblop]

@Goofy_Mew2rator @JackStone8814 @smashbaals If you feel I have misunderstood your argument, then why not just restate it?

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@Goofy_Mew2rator @JackStone8814 @smashbaals Going to change the logical consistency of the position. You don't have to like it even if you accept it and reject God for it, but it doesn't follow therefore God isn't real or that He is evil from this view.

[Van @Clopclopblop]

@Goofy_Mew2rator @JackStone8814 @smashbaals Predestination where God does pre damn people to Hell. It's a logical position to hold, but not the only position there is in classical Christianity which you attempt to ignore to focus on your preferred view because it makes God seem the most curel to you but your emotion isn't

[Van @Clopclopblop]

@Goofy_Mew2rator @JackStone8814 @smashbaals You argue like an extreme Calvinst but one who doesn't believe in Calvinism, by the way.

God is sovereign over all creation. Life is His to give and take and to set what qualifies as fair and just punishment, and what if any remedy is to be offered. You don't deserve more.

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@Goofy_Mew2rator @JackStone8814 @smashbaals No not even under your extreme view did God doom humanity. You are stating God on one hand dooms creation but in the other ignore the salvation offered and the plans for a New World after which is made by the same God.

[Van @Clopclopblop]

@Goofy_Mew2rator @JackStone8814 @smashbaals Eve falling to temptation didn't doom humanity. It made us Fallen as we suffer from Original Sin, but Christianity doesn't stop there. It gives us a path to salvation despite our evil by accepting the Righteousness of a Christ as our own and talks of the new world

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@Goofy_Mew2rator @JackStone8814 @smashbaals Humanity isn't doomed according to Christianity. It is redeemed thru the Righteousness of Christ.

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@JackStone8814 @Goofy_Mew2rator @smashbaals That's just stupid lol

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@Goofy_Mew2rator @JackStone8814 @smashbaals How is creation doomed?

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@Goofy_Mew2rator @JackStone8814 @smashbaals God told them not to eat the fruit of the tree. They were told the one Law to obey and were offered the chance of fulfilling the Law and they failed. They were deceived but they had their own agency in the matter. They still failed.