Cloy fogleman

"There is a special spirit therein, and that which ascends from it is like smoke, and its name is frost." Enoch 60:18b

[Cloy fogleman @CloyFogleman]

@queenofthevents @Jests_Hitman @Scarlet_BelleVr Sweetheart, NASA has Government contracts… and the billionaires in office… you’re not going to find incriminating evidence on mainstream sources or glorified search engines.

Much like Epstein, you’ve got to find the silenced people if you want the truth.

Have a good day.

[Cloy fogleman @CloyFogleman]

@Jests_Hitman @queenofthevents @Scarlet_BelleVr You know what, that’s fair.

I’ll go give that other person one last bit of info and then sign off.

I’ll probably take your advice as well, have a good day.

[Cloy fogleman @CloyFogleman]

@Jests_Hitman @queenofthevents @Scarlet_BelleVr First, NASA has been caught up in too many government scandals (including Epstein) to be a credible source.

Second, dark matter cannot be directly tested or measured because of its composition, only indirectly observed… supernatural phenomena is the same.

[Cloy fogleman @CloyFogleman]

@Jests_Hitman @queenofthevents @Scarlet_BelleVr Now this is interesting, because I’ve gotten the opposite response…(see below)
This will require further investigation…

Regardless, how do we know it’s not a deity of some kind, that we mistook for natural effects?

[Cloy fogleman @CloyFogleman]

@Jests_Hitman @Scarlet_BelleVr While all this is valid… and I might be going back on my previous statement…

Shouldn’t this also apply to the LGBT community?
Shouldn’t we be holding them responsible for belittling and harassing those that walk away/prefer not to get involved?

[Cloy fogleman @CloyFogleman]

@Jests_Hitman @queenofthevents @Scarlet_BelleVr Do you mind if I try a different approach for this?

Scientific consensus says dark matter exists… can we directly study dark matter?

[Cloy fogleman @CloyFogleman]

@Jests_Hitman @Scarlet_BelleVr Then why are you doing it?

Many trans people I’ve seen agree with almost everything the OP has said… some have even burned the flag.

OP isn’t dehumanizing anyone in that post, she’s talking about how she was taken advantage of by corrupt people, in the name of transsexualism.

[Cloy fogleman @CloyFogleman]

@queenofthevents @Jests_Hitman @Scarlet_BelleVr Bloodletting was widely accepted by many doctors at the time, those who didn’t support it were discredited… same with smoking.

Did you not look into this?

[Cloy fogleman @CloyFogleman]

@Jests_Hitman @Scarlet_BelleVr Also bloodletting was widely supported by doctors during that time.

[Cloy fogleman @CloyFogleman]

@Jests_Hitman @Scarlet_BelleVr By that same logic, wouldn’t attacking Christianity also be bad?

Especially when there are trans Christian, and scientific studies supporting it’s claims. (see below)

Wouldn’t your argument be just as problematic?

[Cloy fogleman @CloyFogleman]

@Jests_Hitman @Scarlet_BelleVr Funny you should mention ancient medicine… after all the trans identity is a very ancient religious concept.

And as far as comparison goes, that’s my point… doctors in the modern era consistently prioritize profit over people, trusting their word is like trusting a politician.

[Cloy fogleman @CloyFogleman]

@queenofthevents @Jests_Hitman @Scarlet_BelleVr That’s my point, scientific consensus has proven to be unreliable and easily manipulated.

Making trans identity scientifically based doesn’t necessarily mean it’s valid or accurate, especially when it’s a very old religious concept.

[Cloy fogleman @CloyFogleman]

@Jests_Hitman @Scarlet_BelleVr Sweetheart, scientific consensus can, and has, been wrong.

From the practice of “blood letting” to “smoking extends your life expectancy” these were backed up by scientific research at the time, and where did that lead people?

Many doctors want patients and profit, not cures.

[Cloy fogleman @CloyFogleman]

@bongo_baka @soldierzeroanby @dailyceladon Then block me.

I will stand by what I said earlier, you defended your position on this topic, and as much as I disagree, your conviction is… admirable.

Have the day you deserve.

[Cloy fogleman @CloyFogleman]

@bongo_baka @soldierzeroanby @dailyceladon Here…

[Cloy fogleman @CloyFogleman]

@bongo_baka @soldierzeroanby @dailyceladon Oh sweet heart… I’m indigenous American… I’ve been speaking from experience… you’re advocating light skin Native American and African people shouldn’t have an opinion because they aren’t dark enough.

Also how is Mona and Mualani the same color?

[Cloy fogleman @CloyFogleman]

@bongo_baka @soldierzeroanby @dailyceladon constantly receiving hate from both black and white people, because they aren’t black enough or white enough to fit in.

Let me ask you something, when was the last time you saw a light skin or mixed race person in pop culture that wasn’t accused of racism?

[Cloy fogleman @CloyFogleman]

@bongo_baka @soldierzeroanby @dailyceladon To go point by point…

Curly hair is not black exclusive… there are white people who’ve got naturally curly hair.

The Natlan cast was constantly charged with “racism” specifically because they didn’t fit the stereotypes people had about them.

And lastly mixed race people are+

[Cloy fogleman @CloyFogleman]

@bongo_baka @soldierzeroanby @dailyceladon from the past, they are treated as if they don’t exist and don’t deserve any kind of representation.

[Cloy fogleman @CloyFogleman]

@bongo_baka @soldierzeroanby @dailyceladon in indigenous America, African and middle eastern cultures, everyone is either black or white with no in between for those who don’t fit the aesthetic.

Thirdly, the treatment of said lighter skin toned people has essentially become “pretty privilege” and “half breed” arguments+