Club Z

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[James Lindsay, anti-Communist @ConceptualJames]

I recently did an interview when I was in Jerusalem and dropped a concept I've been working on for a bit (with a podcast of my own forthcoming). That concept is this:

The Israel Question

My case is that before WWII and the Holocaust and the re-establishment of the state of Israel in 1948, almost everywhere in the world, and certainly Europe, was consumed with something called "The Jewish Question." After WWII, the Holocaust, and the re-establishment of the state of Israel, the Jewish Question rightly became unaskable* because its intrinsic evil was deeply recognized (*except in Islamist states).

Because of these two things:
1) The Jewish Question becoming unaskable in civilized society; and
2) The state of Israel being re-established,
I insist that the Jewish Question got relocated to something I call "the Israel Question."

All the "just asking questions" crap we hear today is just asking the Israel Question.

So what is it?

We start with the Jewish Question. What is "the Jewish Question"? The Jewish Question is "what do we do with the Jews, on the presumption that we don't want them?" It is intrinsically antisemitic and shouldn't have taken the Holocaust to show how bad it is.

Why is that presumption part of the question, which has historically been framed merely as "what do we do with the Jews?"? The reason is simple: if your answer to "what do we do with the Jews?" is roughly "let them be part of our society with freedom to be themselves," you wouldn't ask the question about what to do with them at all. The question wouldn't just be unasked because there's a ready answer; it would be moot and irrelevant. There's no need to ask the question at all unless you see Jews as a problem to begin with. Thus, the question rests on that presumption ("we don't want them (here)") and is intrinsically antisemitic.

So that's the Jewish Question: What do we do with the Jews, on the presumption that we don't want them (here)?

Different people proposed different answers throughout history. The Romans didn't want them in "Palestine" anymore and chased them into Diaspora in AD 70-74, for example. Martin Luther suggested horrible things in the 1530s after he kinda went nuts in his latest years. Karl Marx suggested you make them not Jewish anymore, and preferably Communist, and the problem solves itself because they're not Jewish anymore but Communist comrades. Hitler suggested first to relocate them all to Madagascar and, upon recognizing that's ridiculous and impossible, the "Final Solution," which was to find and murder ALL of them, in order to rid Europe of them entirely.

Again, my case is that we don't ask the Jewish Question anymore in civilized parts of the world because we recognize it as being not just antisemitic but a gateway to hell. The Jewish Question is anathema in modern civilized societies.

Roughly at the same time as humanity finally started that realization baldly in the face, the state of Israel re-established itself in its historical homeland. Not only is this good on its own, but it also provides a failsafe should the morality slip and the Jewish Question arise in earnest again. With Israel, and its IDF and thus the ability to defend themselves at need, Jews can make aliyah and escape any society that decides to ask the JQ and thus reopen the gates to hell within its own borders. And good luck dealing with the IDF, as history has shown.

Thus arose a replacement question, a proxy for the Jewish Question that could be asked even though the JQ was off the table: the Israel Question.

What is the Israel Question? Simple: "What do we do with Israel, on the presumption that we don't want it (not just there, but anywhere)?"

The Israel Question seems distinct from the Jewish Question, and on technicality (but not in substance) it is. This allows the Israel Question to pose itself as a high-minded, fully socially acceptable geopolitical topic of debate instead of the rank antisemitism that it's actually serving.

The Israel Question is "just asking questions" about the state of Israel and its role in the world (on the presumption that we don't want it, thus the relentless impossible standards Israel is held to under its gaze). It's very high-minded. It's just global politics, you know.

The Israel Question takes forms like
-whether Israel destabilizes the Middle East by its mere presence,
-if Israel is really legally entitled to be there at all,
-if Israel defending itself against its hostile neighbors is a form of implicit aggression that causes secondary problems like mass migration,
-whether Israel should be forced to share its land with people who want to kill Jews because they are Jews and do impossible things to make it work even when it cannot work by definition,
-whether Israel is really defending itself or just starting random wars,
-if Israel's military (IDF) or intelligence service (the Mossad) secretly controls other countries including its putative allies,
-whether Israel is really a good ally or an ally at all to the countries with which it is in alliance,
-if Israel has secret ambitions to illegally conquer foreign lands for its own and force, coerce, blackmail, or trick other nations to do its dirty work in the process,
-if Israel deserves any kind of aid packages, moneys, or alliances and if it actually deserves to exist if any such things help its security,
-and on, and on, and on.

See, these questions aren't about JEWS. They're just high-minded geopolitical questions about Israel and its role in the world.

But these "just asking questions" questions are the Israel Question in disguise: ultimately, what do we do with Israel, on the presumption that we don't want it?

The Israel Question, and its "just asking questions" disguises, again, simply don't exist without the presumption of not wanting Israel. If your answer to "what do we do with Israel?" is "treat it like any other sovereign nation," there's no impetus to ask the Israel Question at all, and many of its disguises are moot too. All of them are moot once the impossible standard lurking beneath them is exposed, and that impossible standard is the hidden Israel Question.

The thing is, the Israel Question is just the Jewish Question by proxy, though. The question is ultimately "what do we do with the one place Jews can unequivocally defend themselves, presuming we don't want such a place?" (Again, if that presumption isn't there, there's no reason for the question and thus no question to begin with.)

In other words, the Israel Question is still "what do we do with Jews, presuming we don't want them?" with only the slightest caveat in possibility but only very rarely in intention.

Of course, the presumption of the Jewish Question is called "antisemitism," as we already discussed, which makes the Jewish Question itself antisemitic.

Similarly, the presumption of the Israel Question is called "anti-Zionism," as should be obvious, which makes the Israel Question itself anti-Zionist.

But the Israel Question is the Jewish Question by proxy, so the underlying anti-Zionism is antisemitism by proxy too.

We spend a lot of time these days seeing not just the reinvigoration of the anathema Jewish Question itself but far more the Israel Question, which would rob the JQ of its failsafe, which the Jews call making aliyah. And we're supposed to tolerate it and pretend it's just high-minded policy discussion about big geopolitical matters that are detached enough not to be immoral, or, in some cases, people fool themselves into believing that first.

We flatter ourselves with high-minded platitudes like, "of course anyone should be able to question the activities any state at any time" or "of course people should be allowed to criticize and question a government," as though those are actually what the Israel Question is about. Yes, "of course," those things are on the table, and every Israeli debates them daily, but not on the presumption that Israel's existence is not actually wanted.

This is why the formal definition of antisemitism is correct to name holding Israel to an impossible standard or one beyond that any other nation would be held to when discussing matters of its sovereignty, existence, security, or role in the world. It is right to name what amounts to the Israel Question as antisemitism because it is antisemitism, only thinly veiled.

We should learn to recognize the Israel Question for what it is, both for the evil, potentially genocidal antisemitism it actually expresses and for its presentation as a hidden presumption tucked underneath seemingly high-minded, fair-game "just asking questions" questions.

The rise of the Israel Question is the rise of the Jewish Question by proxy, and the response to the Jewish Question we have all understood as moral bedrock for civilized societies is "never again." Thus, the response to the Israel Question is also "never again." In light of its undeniable and rampant rise, it is therefore wholly appropriate and necessary to take the bold, righteous, and courageous stand of our time.

Join me in saying, then, NEVER AGAIN IS NOW!

[Club Z @ClubZTeens]

@BasedMikeLee @elonmusk it is not about the time. No matter how long white europeans live in America, they will never be indigenous to this land. Just like - no matter how long Arabs live in Europe, they will never be indigenous to France or Spain.

[Club Z @ClubZTeens]

‘Can’t scare us,’ pro-Israel students say at Club Z event https://t.co/pS3ec5nkio via @JNS_org

[StopAntisemitism @StopAntisemites]

Perspective @VanderbiltU students and parents were shocked to see undergraduate admissions counselor Briana Grimes sport a keffiyeh during an information session yesterday.

Grimes oversees admissions for numerous states, including NY, for Vanderbilt.

How can someone like Grimes be trusted to make fair and equitable decisions when reviewing the applications of Jewish students?

[Club Z @ClubZTeens]

When photos are so easily reverse searched, why do these accounts keep lying?

[Club Z @ClubZTeens]

Who wants to tell the rioters in LA?

[Club Z @ClubZTeens]

When they say "We don't want no Zionists here," they mean Jews. They are always talking about the Jews. Don't let them obfuscate that.

[Club Z @ClubZTeens]

Can you believe what Ashdod looked like 67 years ago?! Hard to believe it's even the same city!

[Club Z @ClubZTeens]

Just your Friday reminder that Jews are from Judea!

[Club Z @ClubZTeens]

Israel-haters seem to be really great at one thing, not checking their sources! Here you have one of our favorite propaganda accounts once again trying to lay claim to a photo that doesn't depict what they claim.

[Club Z @ClubZTeens]

Words matter. Let's call it by its true name. Judea and Samaria.

[Club Z @ClubZTeens]

This isn't in Gaza...

[Open Source Intel @Osint613]

WATCH

Armed terrorist CHILDREN are seen in the village of Ya'bad, Samaria.

The world is silent.

[Club Z @ClubZTeens]

Have you registered for Club Z yet? What are you waiting for?!

The best way to fight Jew-hatred is to give Jewish teens knowledge, pride and community—all elements of the Club Z experience.

Head on over to https://t.co/GIgOTXlIqd to learn more!

[Shahar Azani @ShaharAzani]

When you meet a Club Z Teen, you immediately know it: the confidence, the eloquence, the deep sense of belonging - and most of all the passion for justice, truth, Israel & the #Jewish people.

I was honored to speak today at Club Z’s New York Graduation, where the term Am Yisrael Chai stood right before me, alive and proud, manifested in those teens.

Indeed, AM YISRAEL CHAI 🇮🇱💪🙏
@ClubZTeens
@MashaMerkulova
#jewsfromjudea

[Club Z @ClubZTeens]

Here's a hot take, let's stop taking photos from random countries and claiming them as our own, thanks!

[Club Z @ClubZTeens]

57 years of religious freedom for all in Jerusalem. 57 years our eternal capital has been reunited. The Temple Mount is in our hands.

[(((Yuval David))) @YuvalDavid]

Join me tomorrow as I speak on the Jewish National Fund USA briefing.
Wednesday, 12:00PM EST / 9:00AM PST
https://t.co/1rxBeSNZZI @JNFUSA

This week’s agenda:
Yuval David, Emmy Award-winning Actor, Director, Filmmaker, and Journalist @yuvaldavid

Masha Merkulova, founder of Club Z @MashaMerkulova @ClubZTeens

Elie Klein, ADI Director of development and media relations

[Elder of Ziyon 🇮🇱 @elderofziyon]

A month ago, @AP reported that hundreds of thousands of Gazans were in the most dangerous phase possible for starvation, IPC5. By the official definition, however, that would mean dozens or hundreds of Gazans would be dying every day from starvation (677,000 Gazans classified at IPC5 in March, which would mean 2-4 deaths per 10,000 people every day,)

No one is reporting that. In fact, there have not been any reports of any starvation deaths by the MoH since March. Either the raw data is wrong or there is a lot more food entering Gaza than what the media is reporting.

But AP explained away the lack of reported starvation deaths instead by saying that data gathering of such deaths in Gaza is very difficult. because of the breakdown of the medical system.

If it is so difficult to gather mortality information in Gaza, then why does AP believe the Hamas health ministry for non-starvation deaths, in the same hospitals?

What AP is saying is that everyone can trust Hamas for counting the number of conflict related deaths, but counting deaths by starvation is too darn hard to do.

If there were dozens or hundreds of starvation deaths daily in Gaza, there were be screaming headlines about it. It is impossible that hundreds of thousands of Gazans are in that most catastrophic stage of famine IPC5 without anyone dying.

We are being lied to, every day, by the NGOs and media. And they cover up their mistakes.

[Club Z @ClubZTeens]

"It is time to remove terror from academia, we will not enable this phenomenon to continue. Freedom of expression yes, incitement to terror unequivocally no."
https://t.co/jX1ld7HJaW

[Jerusalem News Syndicate @JNS_org]

The head of UNWRA wrote a guest essay in the @nytimes saying that Israel must stop its campaign against UNWRA, calling the attacks against the organization "outrageous"

Here are a list of crimes committed by UNWRA only about October 7. This list is by no means complete.
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