@teeebow@Gunflame345@pb_and_jaybird I’ve been mistaking this as an argument when it’s looking more like a lesson. I’m the only one who’s provided any science. Go talk to a teacher, not me.
@teeebow@Gunflame345@pb_and_jaybird Ok so I show you one example of a sexual abnormality and you believe that’s the only one? Before I show you this abnormality, you believe there are none? This really is just an issue of you being uneducated isn’t it. The original post was right, you just don’t know biology.
@teeebow@Gunflame345@pb_and_jaybird While having fully formed penis and pussy is exceedingly rare, not something I could verify, it’s not impossible. I’m talking about how people can have parts of both, neither, it not working, etc. I don’t think drawing the line at reproductive ability is the strongest decision.
@Gunflame345@pb_and_jaybird No, they are intersex, which to some people I’ve been arguing to about this is worse. Transgenderism is not the norm, but is it really so hard to imagine that if so much can go wrong in the genitals, there can be even more variability in how the brain thinks about gender?
@Gunflame345@pb_and_jaybird If I tell you, with genuine evidence, that it is more complicated, but you just don’t read it and suggest I’m wrong because of a title, you are too dumb to argue with, and not arguing in good faith. Transness itself is an edge case, why aren’t you similarly trying to prove…
@teeebow@Gunflame345@pb_and_jaybird If you look at history, hermaphroditism goes back as far as we can look. I won’t say most but a good amount of every culture in history had their own concessions to account for these people.
@teeebow@Gunflame345@pb_and_jaybird You are cherry picking the one thing that I mentioned that you can make as black and white as possible. Just like how ur genitals can vary, ur psychological sex can vary too.
@teeebow@Gunflame345@pb_and_jaybird Trans people would argue that their psychological sex had been determined when they were born, via another one of these genetic mishaps. I wouldn’t hate these people, but discrimination goes further than that. In the UK in the 90s they had police in bathrooms checking for trans..
@teeebow@Gunflame345@pb_and_jaybird Drawing the line at whether they have a penis or pussy is really weird when there are people with parts of both, neither, one or the other that doesn’t work, etc. furthermore if you choose to ignore the science that there is psychological female or male, that’s dumb, but ur choic
@Gunflame345@pb_and_jaybird Neither of us are saying that Transness is the norm, I’m using other biological sexual abnormalities to justify the psychological sexual abnormality that is trans. Because it absolutely is more complicated than xx and xy. Both are very rare, both are very real.
@Sn4eh5hWGJ@Gunflame345@pb_and_jaybird Yeah, I’m saying that there are abnormalities in biological sex that approach around 1% of the population, just like abnormalities in psychological sex that approach 1% of the population (Transness). Both exist, fucking duh. It just happens.
@teeebow@Gunflame345@pb_and_jaybird Transness isn’t normal, the issue is discrimination, shouldnt happen to anyone. Sex gets more complicated the further away from xx and xy you go. So duh, the psychology of gender is a social construct, and it’s even less binary. Is a feminine man female? Dumb to argue at that lvl
@teeebow@Gunflame345@pb_and_jaybird Weird place to put it but that’s an opinion and I can’t argue with that. I can maybe say that there are so many abnormalities that can affect reproductive ability, and what genitals you have (xy people with natural pussies) that this isn’t a great place to put it, but that’s all
@teeebow@Gunflame345@pb_and_jaybird Transness is 1% of population, they are all abnormalities. Ok, but people born with both absolutely does happen, so now what? I think you can appreciate at least that it is more complex scientifically than xx and xy, deciding that it’s based on their reproductive ability is a….
@Gunflame345@pb_and_jaybird Because it’s most commonly in males, because the the sex determining Y protein SRY is still present in most cases. However, as the Wikipedia shows, there are SRY-negative Klinefelter syndrome cases, so not male. Again, the biology is more complex, if a single protein changes ts.
@Sn4eh5hWGJ@Gunflame345@pb_and_jaybird It’s not in males tho, read the link, it says males because it’s most commonly has the SRY protein which tends male, but there absolutely is SRY-negative Klinefelter syndrome, not man.