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Touching Grass.

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@JeffreyBenson12 what’s the No price on fierceness in the KY Derby?

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@etansted @JustFac36465951 Look at the timestamps, little bro.

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ND / Miami Reflections
1) I grew up hating ND. I still hate ND. My kids will hate ND. I will die hating ND.
2) The ND campus is incredible. Best stadium atmosphere I’ve ever experienced.

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@etansted @JustFac36465951 My broader point, which I’ve already stated in this thread, is that every institution has had its controversies.

Notre Dame though is one of the few institutions that acts like it’s shit doesn’t stink and that it’s an unimpeachable force for good.

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@etansted @JustFac36465951 I am.

I think it’s possible to separate the wisdom from the actions of the clergy.

I refuse to financially support the church. I used to date a girl who worked for the diocese. She said that most of what you donated went to fund future litigation.

That’s how I separate it.

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@JustFac36465951 @irishcelticsfan @MasonPlummer_ I am Catholic. I attend mass every Sunday.

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@irishcelticsfan @MasonPlummer_ @JustFac36465951 Miami is not the not the Catholic organization. Miami is not the self proclaimed “force for good.”

Every single school has scandal. Notre Dame, however, is holier than thou. That’s my point.

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@irishcelticsfan @MasonPlummer_ @JustFac36465951 Yep, that was so clearly my point. I wish you well.

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@irishcelticsfan @MasonPlummer_ @JustFac36465951 Those were not current players. I didn’t include ND players arrested after their time at ND either.

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@irishcelticsfan @MasonPlummer_ @JustFac36465951 There weren’t any ND arrests between 2019 and 2026. During that same period, there were two Miami players arrested.

Miami is really showing off its convict behavior with those two arrests.

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@irishcelticsfan @MasonPlummer_ @JustFac36465951 Yep, and Notre Dame has had plenty of players get arrested too. College players tend to be morons, no matter what uniform they wear.

Again, Notre Dame is still embarrassed that its students and fans called an opponent “convicts.”

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@MasonPlummer_ @JustFac36465951 If it makes you feel better, please do.

Grace is a core catholic concept.

“I think that it is the general agreement of many administrators, teachers and students alike that the shirt is in bad taste.” - Dennis Moore

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@JustFac36465951 The school has had a long history of covering up abuse by its priests. It recently released an official apology for its lack of action.

https://t.co/5ILkKvNHWo

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@TomConner173467 @EdN618 Including my best friend who went to Notre Dame? Hundreds.

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@MasonPlummer_ @JustFac36465951 An indebted ND student coined that term to sell shirts after like three Miami players were arrested.

That phrase has so deeply embarrassed the ND regents that it’s the main reason that until recently ND did not officially recognize the rivalry.

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@JustFac36465951 Being fair, the football related items on that list all happened under Brian Kelly.

But Brian Kelly won football games, so the university turned a blind eye. That’s not something which screams integrity.

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@JustFac36465951 And just so you don’t think I’m blowing smoke:

- Concealment of clergy sexual abuse
- Lizzy Seeberg sexual assault
- Academic scandal, 21 vacated wins
- Repeated criticism over handling sexual assault allegations
- Heavy restrictions on student speech and demonstrations

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@TomConner173467 And you could say if Heisman favorite Toney played, that Miami would score more than they did.

Injuries clearly hampered both sides.

No one knows what would’ve happened.

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@EdN618 @TomConner173467 “How many Notre Dame graduates does it take to change a light bulb?”

“One, but they’ll talk about Notre Dame while they do it.”

Many ND graduates can be pompous and one dimensional about the fact that they went to ND. No other school comes close in that regard.

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@longjohnhonkie It has literally nothing to do with conference.