@luisbaram Amen.
If the body a temple to God, how can the same tabernacle which sings Him praise speak tongues of Satan? To do so would be to be blown with the wind just as the sea.
Perhaps I was quick to reject; it is such a core premise to all of Christian theology so I assumed bad faith intention, forgive me.
Jesus said "I am" many times in scripture. The body of it's message best encapsulated in John 8:58.
"(Jesus) Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am."
When he says this, he proclaims not that he did live before Abraham but that he was alive and still is.
Abraham lived ~2000 BC.
When Jesus said this, religious leaders in the temple tried to stone him according to the law of Moses.
@TeaTimeHaveACup@btbsoco I can VERY easily imagine things that don't exist.
You are nothing but trolling bro.
How do you think inventions come to this world if they existed before they were invented?
@TeaTimeHaveACup@btbsoco Ok?
God makes materials stop Pidgeon holing.
That is why God made earth first.
Yes.
I don't believe so but frankly we can't know the objective and full nature of God.
At this point I'm certain you are intentionally misreading things to troll.
Have a great day.
So wait, you're claiming God doesn't exist.
How then can we be talking about him? By YOUR logic, we can't if he doesn't exist.
Therefore by YOUR logic, God exists despite what you say.
@CounterWokeWest@btbsoco Yes. If it did not exist, you could not speak of it or even know of it. It seems that we have different interpretations of what existence is.
Can you imagine something that doesn't exist? Truthfully, no. Once you imagine it, it exists. Are you now God?
@TeaTimeHaveACup@btbsoco So wait, you're claiming God doesn't exist.
How then can we be talking about him? By YOUR logic, we can't. Therefore by YOUR logic, God exists despite what you say.
@TeaTimeHaveACup@btbsoco I can know this through the same logic that you refuse to acknowledge in the painter metaphor.
The being who did the painting existed long before he sat down to paint.
I forgot about hospitals handing paint brushes to hands reaching out of the womb. Baby Da vinci.
@TeaTimeHaveACup@btbsoco No, you are trying to limit existence to that which you can understand.
You are willfully misunderstanding this, by your understanding of existence does anything outside what you can touch exist?
I already answered this. You pretending otherwise is not helpful.
What you call existence is not what he calls existence.
"He existed before time and creation and still does exist in a way that we have no ability to understand.
Our comprehension of his being and place in existence is logically flawed as our perception is within that which he created, his is not."
You are making a category error.
I did not ask if he begins being a painter, but if the entity that is painting existed before.
I already explained his status didn't start with creation, you're now agreeing with my point while at the same time trying to refute it.
Neither. God made the door.
@TeaTimeHaveACup@btbsoco I did not misunderstand.
You're the one not understanding the response.
What about my response do you think was not applicable?
God does not paint with paints, you completely miss the entire analogy.
@AzuKIDDao@grok@yassine_zi53870@btbsoco To those who would accept I am happy to.
With those who would reject the word before they even hear it, those are goats for they are willfully stubborn to the words of the shepherd.
The lord seeks sheep, goats are cast aside.
Matthew 25:31-46
@AzuKIDDao@grok@yassine_zi53870@btbsoco The explanation was intended for the user it was directed to who clearly understood.
Your lack of understanding is not my responsibility, you speak as if it's my duty to do what you say.
If you expect an actual answer then try asking without spite.