Listen to what I said, not what you FEEL like I said // Describing reality as it is =\= saying what things SHOULD be // No. I implied nothing, I’m too direct.
@WindDgg @daniel_s_larson@LunaOi_VN@VaushV ….you do know that you just called yourself soy, right?
Like, I don’t think calling your “opponent” soy is something that helps anyones argument. But you clearly do- that’s why you’re doing it. So why call yourself soy?
@WindDgg @daniel_s_larson@LunaOi_VN@VaushV “REEEEEEE, I simp for Destiny, but being asked to provide literally any scrap of evidence is too scary and bad faith!
What am I gonna do…. I know! I’m going to say they’re a soyjack! That’ll prove my point….. somehow….”
@WindDgg @daniel_s_larson@LunaOi_VN@VaushV Asking for direct proof of ANY of your claims, including asking for proof that I’ve walked a single thing back even slightly, is “not discussing in good faith”? How is pointing out that you’ve proven nothing “bad faith”?
Jesus, Destiny would be EXCEPTIONALLY disappointed in you.
@WindDgg @daniel_s_larson@LunaOi_VN@VaushV So for my reference, you’ve decided that you can’t prove a single one of your many points besides the one I acknowledged from the start (that Vaush had been a gross sex pest to Poppy a few years ago)?
That’s pretty pathetic, friend.
Your parasocial daddy would be disappointed.
@WindDgg @daniel_s_larson@LunaOi_VN@VaushV You just keep creating more questions & not answering old ones. Very terminally online.
What did I walk back on?
What did “even V [admit]” that I’m “lying to myself” about? Or are ya just pivoting off those points like a coward?
Where did V state that his community harassed P?
@BaneBread@daniel_s_larson@LunaOi_VN@VaushV Yup, exactly. I wont just accept gaslighting for similar reasons.
Unfortunately, everyone I’ve talked to who backs Luna on this topic responds by either insisting w/o proof, insisting that Luna’s initial funny cant be a funny, or suddenly ghosting. So gaslighting or running away
@Hellmark@LuaBorealis@LunaOi_VN@VaushV Its perfectly ok if you don’t PERSONALLY find Luna’s attempt at humor funny. Humor is subjective after all.
But Luna clearly used two of the most common techniques that mark something as humorous. She abruptly changed her tone and her intonation. In an exaggerated way, in fact.
@Hellmark@LuaBorealis@LunaOi_VN@VaushV Aside; you don’t have to like Vaush. That’s fine. In fact there’s plenty of legit reasons to not like him.
So dont just make stuff up. Dont pretend that Luna doing the classic hallmarks of “I’m joking” didnt happen.
This soup is so thin it’s just water, and that’s embarrassing.
@Hellmark@LuaBorealis@LunaOi_VN@VaushV …what? Don’t you know how people mark humor? This is really basic stuff.
Two of the most classic signs of “I’m making a funny” are abrupt shifts in tone or intonation - and she did BOTH immediately before Vaush laughed (and me too, the first time I saw it).
She. Was. Funny.
@Hellmark@LuaBorealis@LunaOi_VN@VaushV Did you watch the video? Vaush began laughing… well before Luna got serious. He laughed at Luna making a funny. Ya know, when she talked about how her grandparents “owned a SHIT LOAD of land”.
When Luna began describing the “serious story”, the torture, he abruptly stopped.
@WindDgg @daniel_s_larson@LunaOi_VN@VaushV Stop. I havent looked at your new link yet, you MUST respond before I continue.
What SINGLE thing have I walked back?
Is the P thing bad? YUP. Are your claims true? Not so far. If you attack others for your failure to substantiate your claims, you might be the real “zealot”. 😉
@WindDgg @daniel_s_larson@LunaOi_VN@VaushV Depending on the surrounding situation and how he handled it.
But even if V *did* call P out in Dgg, and we assume that’s harassment, that still is not evidence of “MONTHS” of harassment and is zero evidence of sending his (at that point small) community after her.
So, source?
@WindDgg @daniel_s_larson@LunaOi_VN@VaushV (1/2) So, all that screenshot establishes is that Vaush CONSIDERED calling Poppy out in DESTINY’S community, with him believing that her being called out publicly would cause her to change the way she is approaching the situation.
That could be f’ed if he actually did so,
@F1Valkyrie @AntonioTheReis1 @LunaOi_VN@VaushV I think Destiny enables some INCREDIBLY dangerous thought processes, but I also think its beyond any question that he’s a net positive for the world’s material conditions.
Except from, idk, a “he’s net good but prevents a greater net good” or an anti-natalist-esque perspective