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Yes

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@ChiChi_Verse @DBZcom And I mean his interpretation is unsupported in claiming Garano was the most powerful soldier in a previous post.

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@ChiChi_Verse @DBZcom The quoted person’s interpretation of the text is unsupported. You can’t show that Toyo said Garana was the strongest so I don’t understand why it’s the case that he doesn’t remember what he wrote based on this statement.

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@ChiChi_Verse @DBZcom I have, and I'm asking where it says he's the strongest?

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@ChiChi_Verse @DBZcom Where did Toyo say he's the strongest?

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@ChiChi_Verse @DBZcom How does this prove that? Are you saying he can't be the second strongest if he's stronger than Shisami?

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@KloNeda @zenkicuck @DaleCatuaba Are you saying Moro’s magic is comprised of fire and flames?

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@KloNeda @zenkicuck @DaleCatuaba I never said it’s dangerous due to Moro’s magic. I’ll ask that you don’t strawman my statements

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@KloNeda @zenkicuck @DaleCatuaba Vegeta does mention it with emphasis. Likewise, however, there’s no proof Goku meant ONLY the planet’s energy. The attack is referred to as “fire and flames” not even Moro’s magic. For the aforementioned reasons, Moro did not amp the planet’s energy

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@KloNeda @zenkicuck @DaleCatuaba This is incorrect, since Buu does many things during their fight before this statement. The more accurate assessment is that Moro’s magic seemingly doesn’t work because he can’t absorb Buu’s energy

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@KloNeda @zenkicuck @DaleCatuaba I don’t see how this is relevant. Buu is simply resistant to everything from Moro’s magic (absorption etc) and it so happens that he can withstand the planet’s energy (in the form of lava) + he’s gotten considerably stronger, but again, Moro says the planet energy ≠ his power

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@KloNeda @zenkicuck @DaleCatuaba You admitted it’s a separate power system. It’s a system by which power is actualized, therefore its power. No one said it wasn’t separate from Ki and Battle Power via Ki. Moro can actually amp himself using magic by absorbing energy.

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@KloNeda @zenkicuck @DaleCatuaba Nothing about manipulation entails the addition of strength, Moro outright says the power is not his. He only manipulates it.

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@KloNeda @zenkicuck @DaleCatuaba So you outright admit Magic relates to power by calling it a separate power system?? Therefore the only distinction is that all magic entails power but not all power entails Magic. The point still stands, Moro doesn’t amp the lava, its power is from the planet, not his

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@KloNeda @zenkicuck @DaleCatuaba Manipulation doesn’t make the attack any stronger, what constitutes an attack’s strength is the power behind it. Krillin manipulated the spirit bomb but nothing says its strength was affected. You’re making a distinction between magic and power which, can you demonstrate that?

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@Lit4Geeks You could easily find both versions of Kai with the better music (which I assume is Yamamoto’s Score). Just make sure the version you find uses the Yamamoto Revival Project so the music doesn’t suddenly shift back to Kikuchi starting episode 55.

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@KloNeda @zenkicuck @DaleCatuaba Fat Buu is simply resistant to the lava. Moro doesn’t amp the lava, he states verbatim that he attacks with the planet’s energy, the magnitude of which doesn’t come from his own.

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@johnstone45586 Seems insanely high for DBS Goku, what exactly is the argument for it?

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@FemboyFrancois @travytheparadox @IamSaxus @sukuna_brother Even vsbw doesn't believe that
"Hence, a higher-dimensional entity can be both stronger or weaker than a lower-dimensional one, and thus, they are usually quantified based on their own feats, instead of dimensionality alone." "Dimension" needs to prove to entail more power

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@FemboyFrancois @travytheparadox @IamSaxus @sukuna_brother In fairness you do have a point about outerversal+, but some tiers do seem to have at least a mathematical basis for their existence.

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@4ndr3_xxx @xebec_712 @PretenOscu I’m not too familiar with JJK but I do relate to the issue of whether something is literal or not. Anyways if you don’t mind me I have to go now. Nice talking to you.