@BelleClochette1@Davey_dooo@wpcguy@BeardOfJohnKnox@BillArnoldTeach Aw bless. You’re all kinds of dense.
You made a mistake, got called on it & all you can do is say I’m twisting & turning when it is in fact you who cannot reply with anything worthwhile. Lame attempt at diversion and your bullying friend backing you up. Waste of time. Bye 👋
THE 30,000 DENOMINATIONS LIE
How Rome’s Favourite Myth Falls Flat—Even Against Rome
One of the most recycled accusations from Roman Catholic apologists is that Protestantism has "30,000," or "40,000," or even "500,000" denominations—each version sounding more dramatic than the last. The intention is clear: paint Protestantism as a chaotic mess, and exalt Rome as the only beacon of unity.
But here’s the truth…
Where Did That Number Come From?
The claim originates from the World Christian Encyclopedia (David Barrett, 1982 and later 2001 editions), a massive sociological reference that counts organizations, not denominations in the doctrinal sense. It defines “denomination” so broadly that it includes:
Cultural branches of the same denomination (e.g., Baptist churches in USA, Ghana, and Brazil each counted separately)
Independent church networks
Cults and heretical groups like:
Jehovah’s Witnesses
Mormons (LDS)
Oneness Pentecostals
Universalists
Even New Thought metaphysical churches
None of these represent historic, biblical Protestantism. Yet Rome throws them in to inflate the number—and then points back and mocks.
Let’s Apply That Same Standard to Rome
If we’re honest and apply Barrett’s logic to Roman Catholicism, the number isn’t “1 denomination” either.
Here's the breakdown:
23 Eastern Catholic Churches (each with separate canons, liturgies, disciplines)
Dozens of religious orders (Jesuits, Franciscans, Dominicans, Benedictines—each with distinct theological emphases and practices)
Hundreds of independent national churches claiming Catholic identity but not in communion with Rome (e.g., Old Catholics, Chinese Patriotic Catholic Church, Brazilian Catholic Apostolic Church)
Massive doctrinal divergence at the parish level—German bishops endorsing same-sex blessings while African bishops denounce it
Radical theological pluralism inside the walls—liberation theology, folk religion, Marian excesses, universalist tendencies, and traditionalist schisms
Using Barrett’s same logic, Rome could easily be sliced into over 240 denominations, and even more if you factor in independent “Catholic” bodies globally. The World Christian Encyclopedia (2nd ed., 2001) itself lists 242 Roman Catholic "denominations" worldwide.
Let that sink in: even the source Rome uses against Protestants divides Catholicism into 240+ internal groups.
So much for unity.
The Real Issue Is Not Numbers—It's Authority
Jesus didn’t say, “They will know you are mine by your centralized organization.” He said, “By this all people will know you are my disciples, if you love one another” (John ), and that unity is grounded in truth (John ).
Rome points to numbers while denying sola Scriptura, distorting justification, and redefining grace. Meanwhile, faithful Protestants—though scattered in visible bodies—stand united on:
The authority of Scripture alone
The gospel of grace alone through faith alone
Christ alone as Mediator
The glory of God alone
This is not confusion. This is the priesthood of all believers, expressing the gospel in every tribe and tongue.
Rome’s Accusation is a Mirror
Rome’s “30,000 denominations” claim is not only dishonest—it’s hypocrisy wearing a mitre.
When applied to themselves, the illusion of unity collapses into a fragmented empire of conflicting voices, internal scandals, doctrinal compromise, and national disobedience. The real dividing line is not how many denominations exist. It’s who holds authority—God’s Word, or man’s traditions.
Protestants do not stand on chaos. We stand on the Rock.
Let Rome count denominations. We will count the cost—and still preach the truth.
Soli Deo Gloria.
Let him who has ears to hear, hear.
@iamrjknight
@BelleClochette1@Davey_dooo@wpcguy@BeardOfJohnKnox@BillArnoldTeach Study history - you just shot yourself there. You said “the only church for the 1500 years” - where did the orthodox come from? Have you heard of the schism? Would that be then there was more than one church during those 1500 years? Oops. Yes it would.
@skytv Care to tell me why you’be been charging my pensioner parents £92 for basic Sky TV and slower broadband? When they can get better for ALOT less as per your offer below? Taking advantage of a gen that don’t think to compare/renew… criminal.
@Culture_Crit Would Christ be happier with a
Church that keeps all these treasures and all this wealth till the end of time or happier with a church that would give everything it’s got to serve people in His name?
Theres a great mismatch between the god they worship and what they value.
@Culture_Crit The art sure is jaw dropping. However, they’re missing the point. Christ didn’t come to establish his church to be filled with treasure. He had no possessions and calls us to sell and share ours for our fellow humans in need… and these guys have a $1billion unused bath tub?!
What more conclusive evidence do they want? It’s on the foot then it’s not on the same foot and the ball goes down. Of course it’s a try. Cheated because someone’s arm got in the way of a camera position. #SCOFRA#SixNations