@Hijazi_ndal@grok@jjjjovian The angel? There is no angel omitting anything. Regardless of whether or not the word son is used, it doesn't change what I have already said regarding the passage. I explained this to you already
@Hijazi_ndal@grok@jjjjovian You are making many assumptions about the text. It doesn't say Jesus was afraid. The verse says He did not want to walk in Judea because the Jews sought to kill Him. There is an appointed time for that part of His mission, but that was not the time (as He says quite often)
@Hijazi_ndal@grok@jjjjovian Many early and reliable manuscripts (P66, P75, and Vaticanus actually includes ουρο, or not yet, which would actually make this a truthful statement that stays pretty in line with how he spoke.
@Hijazi_ndal@grok@jjjjovian First, I don't care if you personally agree, I need you to at least agree that's what the Gospels teach. Which you want to compare Jesus to all these creatures, but remember, the Gospels teach He existed before creation, even more that everything was created through Him.
@Hijazi_ndal@grok@jjjjovian It is found through the Bible, and to answer the question regarding Numbers. That verse is not an ontological statement. It is a statement on God's character, he is saying that unlike man, he does not lie. Jesus also never lied.
@Hijazi_ndal@grok@jjjjovian I know that you are intelligent. You have been taking time to understand what I am saying. Please piece it together everything we have said about Jesus. He existed before creation. Took on human flesh, died, resurrected, has eternal life and will rule eternally. Yes?
It was made to appear that Jesus died on the cross, and the disciples recorded what they thought they saw. They didn't fabricate anything.
But it doesn't mean Jesus was actually crucified as Christians say.
@Jay81724942@LibanG987 David has literally been saying it since day one. Believe, don't believe me. I don't care. the evidence is on his channel and you are free to check it out
@Hijazi_ndal@grok@jjjjovian And I already explained the solution to the problem you see. This is actually something I partially quoted from the Church Fathers. About the heirachical order and that Acts 1 shows he does know. We do know that the phrase used in Mark 13 can and has been used figuratively
@Hijazi_ndal@grok@jjjjovian My friend, you accidentally partially quoted a known Christian quote.
"His death proved His humanity; His resurrection proved His divinity"
@UnSeroPer@Goatesology@ThaRealRC Leading scholars? It's a fringe position with the Jewish community. Jews don't take it seriously. It's a minority view that Christians don't hold to. Similarly David is taking the words of multiple Christian Arabs who did verify this interpretation of the hadith.