DMT

"Admire the one that seeks the truth, beware of the one that has found it"---Voltaire

[DMT @DaleThompsonDC]

@aakashgupta “One in 20,000 spinal manipulations triggers this.”

You should do some background research before making such claims.

[DMT @DaleThompsonDC]

@Blue_Wode In the USA there are around 2000 strokes everyday.

Correlation vs causation can be difficult but blame is easy.

[DMT @DaleThompsonDC]

@anniodarone3 @GaltMD Of course it is. Silly question.

[DMT @DaleThompsonDC]

@GaltMD @anniodarone3 I didn’t write that.

If the chiropractor was aware of the recent medical intervention of course he or she shouldn’t have done HVLA but thus far we don’t know what the chiropractor did

I can only try to discover what the MD told the patient since that appears to be the report

[DMT @DaleThompsonDC]

@anniodarone3 @GaltMD Actually it is but it’s fine if you can’t see it….most don’t.

[DMT @DaleThompsonDC]

@anniodarone3 @GaltMD That’s not what i asked.

[DMT @DaleThompsonDC]

@GaltMD @anniodarone3 Did the surgeon tell the patient to avoid sudden, sharp, or forced movements of the neck?

[DMT @DaleThompsonDC]

@hanslightsaber @MireMarke 1. Palmer didn’t invent spinal manipulation.

2. Has nothing to do with calculating the safety profile of a profession.

[DMT @DaleThompsonDC]

@Blue_Wode Looks like several contraindications were missed.

“…persistent headache that she attributed to stress and sleep deprivation while caring for her 6-month-old son.”

[DMT @DaleThompsonDC]

@Urodoc46 @nu_skewl @aakashgupta Not really. It’s considered a rare condition and those cases with a high probability of causation due to HVLA are usually due to missed contraindications or improper technique.

I take it you aren’t familiar with the research on the topic.

[DMT @DaleThompsonDC]

@Urodoc46 @nu_skewl @aakashgupta Correlation vs causation can be tricky in these cases.

[DMT @DaleThompsonDC]

@cps_sacredheart MDs “hate” chiropractors who don’t stay in their lane of MSK care.

[DMT @DaleThompsonDC]

@Blue_Wode “It is postulated that an overly forceful or improperly directed thrust could produce a small dural tear…”

So most likely a practitioner error?

[DMT @DaleThompsonDC]

@Pinkgobi @sulmoney Ah, the ad hom sets in. This tends to happen when someone has a weak position.

(Psst, look up the difference between causality vs high probability)

[DMT @DaleThompsonDC]

@Pinkgobi @sulmoney So your mother is sharing private health information?

[DMT @DaleThompsonDC]

@Pinkgobi @sulmoney I see. So the admitting doc may could confused on correlation vs causation.

[DMT @DaleThompsonDC]

@Pinkgobi @sulmoney How does a nurse determine causation in these cases?

[DMT @DaleThompsonDC]

@policywishes @Donkeyhead6 @psych_biscuits First one had to establish the stroke risk of seeing a chiropractor and compare the stroke risk to seeing a physical therapist. If there aren’t any such studies then your request can’t be answered.

[DMT @DaleThompsonDC]

@Blue_Wode @EdzardErnst To my knowledge cervical spinal manipulation (HVLA) on children of this age is not taught at any US chiropractic college.

If you are aware of any such teaching, let us know.